AIM ASSIST IS TOO STRONG
Controller players. The current state of Aim Assist is awful, its ABSOLUTELY an advantage to play on controller in the late stages of the game, or during any close range engagement. I see the Issue ...
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I am sorry but if you think that a controller has any kind of advantage over m+k you are wrong. Apex doesn't have aim assist strong enough to give an edge to someone using a controller. Long range with a controller is clunky and close range doesn't have the advantage you think it has, especially when faced with the accuracy of a mouse.
Besides aiming, keyboard controls just offers movement on a whole different level compared to a controller. It's extremely difficult to pull off the high-level play movement tech with a controller, if not downright impossible.
It just seems that you're overestimating your abilities if you find controller players beating you when you are using m+k yourself, and by all means I would encourage you to switch to a controller if you find it so overpowered.
- @BillyCrash100 You are also comparing most likely people using recoil macros with aim assist. Us legit users have to actually fully track players predict movement with our recoil patterns. Not these 3rd party users though. Recoil pattern with Aim assist is literally a soft aimbot
@E9ine_AC Yes I agree with you. But they are cheaters, I am comparing how a situation would play out on a PC player using m+k and a console player using a controller, both playing fair without cheats or macros. Not fake m+k users abusing controller aim assist or aimbotters, they can obviously not be included in a conversation like this. Cheating is another issue all by itself.
I did see the video posted above, but that does not translate to real combat. That is pretty much the only situation a controller would be on par with m+k. A vanilla 1v1, few meter distance, flat ground situation. Now, add some variables like different elevation, cover like a wall or a pillar, more than 1 targets at a time, point blank range or a range bigger than the one shown in the video , actual recoil, and the list goes on. (Try using the Havoc with a controller)
Especially in point blank range, which is the complaint of OP, a mouse user can just twitch around a 360 degree radius and hit a target. Good luck doing that with a controller. You are going to be killed long before you can turn your analog stick to even have line of sight of the opponent (with low turning speed), or you are going to overshoot your opponent (with high turning speed).
The accuracy and precision of a mouse just can't be matched by a controller.
I have played shooters for years with a controller, and only ever occasionally get the chance to play with m+k cause I don't have a gaming PC. If I could somehow clone myself, give him a mouse and have myself play with a controller against him, he would destroy me so badly it wouldn't even be funny. Mouse aiming is intuitive, controller aiming is not.
- @BillyCrash100 You clearly didn't see my clip
https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/haf32f/when_they_tell_you_aim_assist_isnt_that_strong_on/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Aim assist has autotracking; m/k players need to predict movement, if you fail your prediction you will fail a lot of bullets, most players have 140-240 ms reaction time, controller doesn't need that, aim assist reacts with 0ms response to enemies movement that's the main reason why controller players can 1 clip everyone,
Just see the g7dolphin 1vs1 tournament, that tourney was dominated by controller players, at close range with m/k you will never win against a controller unless you predict all enemies movements, and even if you're a pro you can't see the future or react with 0ms like aim assist.- @audiofilomx I saw your clip. You clearly didn't read my comment.
Try shooting someone who is 1cm away from you with a controller. Or try to shoot someone that is in the air with a controller. Or try shooting someone who is on the ground while you yourself are in the air with a controller. Or reread my comment carefully.
A 1v1 tournament is a great example for controller vs. mouse superiority. Everyone knows Apex is 1v1 after all.
What about regular tournament play then? You know, the standard 3-man-squad battle royale experience, aka how the actual game plays like. What's the controller percentage usage there? Since it's so OP as you claim I would assume about 90% of players use controllers.- @BillyCrash100 I played with controller before m/k i only have 4 years with m/k, i played with controllers since i was a kid, i have 27 years so i have at least 22 years using controllers in every console and i always complained about aim assist since Halo days, i always tried to play without it, but sure, controller is not a good input for FPS, is bad for movement, is bad for aiming, then why there's a bunch of Pro's with controller in a fast game like apex where movement and aiming is all about? Aim assist is the only answer, on tounaments if you know the players, at least a 40% is using a controller (way too many for a bad input) its even a full team called ironically "aim assist"(resultah, gentrifying, desingful) Soar team is only controllers (kobi, jhonny, daltoosh, etc, CLG have Nicewigg, Snipedown, thekine, knoqd, calamitii, averageaden, I can put an enormous list of TOP controller players but will be so damn long and im not saying they're bad, but sure without aim assist, only 1 to 4% of them will actually reach pro level.
I understand your point, controller have so many disadvantages so why it can keep up with m/k?, it's only because aim assist is way too strong, and let's be honest, if aim assist is the only way controller players can aim, it's not true skill, you are being ASSISTED, and why it's legal to enter a tourney with money involved and have Aim assist only because you choose a bad input, not a single game or pro sport in the world allows that.
For Pubs is fine as it is now but for ranked and toruneys should not be allowed at all.
@audiofilomx
can you test if the Aim assist also works in smoke (bangladesh and caustic), i watched someone in my last game. it looked like a bit strange, he followed people with his crosshair (smooth) in smoke without seeing them.- @Raklor_R Aim assist doesn't work through bangalore's smoke, works with caustic smoke because enemies are highlighted, probably he predict the enemy movement, it's not that hard, or maybe he got lucky, happens... or maybe only maybe he modded his controller so he can have a most powerful aim assist 70-80%, (Pc is nowa at 40% and console at 60% according to Data miners.)
Who knows haha
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