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- @Tyldaa Not possible anymore, that would completely throw the competitive scene on its head.
Controller pro cannot just switch and perform on the same lvl, they have contracts running and so on.
They could nerf it to .2 and it might be fine - @Joehara_83iuom1 Difference beeing they do, it’s not some program in the background doing it.
In other words Human has much less consistency than a program.
You can let aimassist do something 1000 times and it will allways behave exactly the same. Never going to happen as a human, there will always be slight variations up to complete Misstakes North America Ranked Lobbies at Platinum and above have become 80% controller dominant, this has been an issue for over a year now, and it is getting worse. When we look at ALGS, the kill leaders are using controller, with 8 of the top NA 10 leaders of ALGS as a whole on a single input.
EA has verified data on this, but OverWolf data confirms this as well, that controllers are statistically superior at shooting, in a first person shooter.
This, coupled with visual clutter bushes, trees, and grass which obscures mouse and keyboard users, has created not just an environment where mouse users are at a dramatic disadvantage but is creating an environment where we as players cannot even get squads as controller players actually do not want to play with us on PC as they know it is an inferior input. What is also widely known is that aim assist works directly through caustic gas, and will even operate through Bangalore's smoke if the smoke does not encase either player (documented here: https://twitter.com/JaysLogic_/status/1553005844052189187 and also here https://twitter.com/PVPX_/status/1599620761039536129 ). It is also worth noting that this kill by aim assist directly through caustic gas was in a key moment in an ALGS match https://twitter.com/PVPX_/status/1580817122036355072
Once again, on PC in ranked, the top three leaders are all using a single input. As more console players switch to PC for improved framerates and aim assist which does not pull so aggressively on knocked players (but still enough to 210 someone with a blue R-99) - this imbalance has gotten entirely out of hand and is a primary reason why 16 pro mouse and keyboard players have been terminated from their org, and multiple MNK pro players have switched to controller (including ImperialHal / Frex / Reptar) - while even In Game Leads (IGLS) of LG was fired and replaced with a controller player, of which LG is now entirely composed of controller players, while 100 Thieves was the last remaining MNK team, and was dissolved just last month for poor performance.
I am looking for an honest update from an EA community or staff member as to why they have not yet addressed this issue in any regard when it has been presented to them clearly publicly, and has been a widely known data point internally for over two years now.
There is virtually not a single controller PC professional player who is not openly stating that aim assist is imbalanced and is clearly the superior input, yet EA has taken zero action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSv0_Gp_E7c&t
They need to remove the aim assist from controlllers, it's absurd trying to play against good controller players with this advantage.
Talk about an extreme handicap...
- Tom0ve2 years agoLegend
Yeah, it's just unfair!
A controller sweater simply has tons of advantages over an MnK player.
But I also have to say that the Aim Assist is simply a part of the controller, I just tried to play on the controller myself and I just can't handle it, in my case the Aim Assist should be even stronger, so I understand the developers.
Soooo... the only sensible way for the gaming industry would be to completely separate MnK & controller players, at least offer a mode where all assistants & handicap systems are deactivated!
EA can easily get global average KD for controller and m&k players. It should be equal. If one of them are much higher then other then something must be done.
BTW, does EA post stats like this?
- Palette24carats2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@SirdodosRidiculous, since ranked is now all about placement!! ahahah what a farce
Aim asisst DIDNT change.
What changed is rank system. So you're telling me fighting less and priorizing placement favors controller? Well that means AA is *.
Pros are little delusional liars, it was proven last year that among Pros at ALGS Mnk was winning over 50% of all fights at all distances, going up to 60% at long range.
- DeepBeats2 years agoSeasoned Adventurer
@SirdodosYou have 2 options here, input base matchmaking which would devide PC player base in probly 50/50 or disable AA completely on PC which is the route i would take giving that you also have the option to use MnK. But we know for sure that Respawn/EA wont take any of those options, same as they wont do anything regarding soft cheating since they need as many people in the game as long as they can.
by controller you mean rewasd software that lets you emulate a controller while playing on mouse and keyboard, right?
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