Aim Assist Update Please

@MoNosDirtyGaming 

The video i linked was used as you can search both users on Twitch and both showed their hands i think. The video you linked seems biased, no (I did watch it though)? The person seems to only use controller in all of their videos, of course their going to fight aim assist, who wouldn't when all they do is use it everyday. Does this person have any videos of gameplay with no aim assist?



Also you need should re-read my post, I'm saying aim assist shouldn't work on someoen who doesn't have it enabled and/or can't get it. mouse users and controller user who have it disabled.

Also DPI (Dots Per Inch) really doesn't mean that much It's mostly just marketing. Most high level players play at low (400 - 800 DPI) with low ingame settings. Some play at (1000 - 1200 DPI) and even lower ingame settings. Could you be confused with polling rate?

Now understand i'm only talking about PC Apex. Someone with a controller on PC Apex with low graphical settings, CSM disabled (Hard shadows) low texture loading rate (makes your game look like nintendo with 200 FPS, you have a nightmare on your hands. Apex PC top kill leaders are controller users. It's very well known you don't want to get close to an aim assist controller user on PC, it just tracks very well when you're close as the target is bigger.

I didn't know this when i was running around with a controller. I just knew an R99 and/or R301 is a lazer, so i would always pick one up.

I can't read into stats on this site you linked. I only use Twitch, Youtube, Facebook, something with direct videos that that person uploaded. Also i don't directly care for the stats of the players. I just used that video because i died and i made the recording at that time.

Also please don't bash me for making a post on aim assist subject. I use both, i've been very open about it. Saying i might not know what i'm talking about is naive. I would keep these messages nice. Please don't act like a mean console player here.

@Sir_Named 

Did i say top players were using a controller, i'm not sure i'm asking. I thought or should have said top kill leaders are controller users, my bad. I've seen some amazing players, but mostly all are mouse & keyboard users.

I'll run a couple of games with aim assist to see how it works, i feel sorry for my team lol.

I now remember why i never turned off aim assist. See i would play with classic curve, but if you turn on advanced it starts the whole advanced settings that really throw off my aim. Would you happen to know the settings for classic while using advanced?

@MoNosDirtyGamingI'm not sure how I would compare keyboard/mouse and controller in the exact same conditions. I don't believe many people are equally skilled in both, and I sure am not. After thought edit: (I'm sure there's even substantially less people that use aim assist, that would also be willing to expose it as the huge advantage it is over fear of losing it)

All I can do is provide the evidence and fact that aim assist provides a substantial advantage when used on PC.
The short testing I did made it grossly apparent how easy close range encounters were with aim assist. And a video I linked on one of these posts showed a guy explaining how he abuses aim assist on PC to get no recoil, and 'ez lazering aim'.

Did controller aim assist on PC get more powerful with Season 5? My K/DR took a nosedive with the new season and I'm simply getting destroyed by people with unbelievably good aim all of a sudden. I'm not a noob, over level 100 with around 1000 games under my belt. I play 1-2 hours every day, so the sudden change is quite shocking. Season 5 K/DR is half of Season 4.  

I have just read through this whole post and as an 'almost' level 400 player I am sorry to say but I have had enough of this great game :-(

I play a lot of FPS games, and I have since I was around 12 years old (35 now). I have played a lot of old school tournaments in games like Half-Life, Unreal Tournament, Quake and more against a lot of well respected international gamers, and I was very successful winning a lot of prizes but today's era of FPS game(s) has unfortunately become bad to a sense that they are a waste of time to play :-(

Say what you want on the matter but I say this not seeking sympathy for the 10's of thousands (possibly even 100's) of hours of my life that I have dedicated to a genre of games that I truly loved (before Youtube streaming existed :-p , but am now unfortunately getting to a point where I feel like it's pointless to play something that I love because it's fake...Game companies have lost the heart and love for what they do and I get it.... it's about money...Without money they can't do what they do or make what they make as the top guys demand financial return...

TO ACHIEVE A HIGHER GROSS TURNOVER THE AIM IS PLAYER SATISFACTION...

And by making everyone feel like they have a chance, or are decent players, they keep you on the edge of thinking you are capable of winning...maybe the next game...And by implementing mechanics like auto aim and plain pure higher luck ratios they achieve exactly what they want...majority player satisfaction

Unfortunately a lot of successful gamers nowadays are successful because they have fine tuned the game rather than the skill and they have sapped and implemented almost every single exploit that gives them an advantage in a certain game hence why a pro in one shooter (nowadays) would be no good in another, YET WHEN I DEDICATED MY LIFE TO FPS GAMES I WAS GOOD AT ANYTHING YOU THREW AT ME THAT WAS A WELL BUILT FPS...Quake , Unreal , Half-Life I was equally skilled in all...

AND THE REASON FOR THE ABOVE IS OBVIOUS : If it was down to pure raw skill/ability (aiming with a mouse and keyboard) then 95% of players would not bother playing as the same people will always win, so they introduced Battle Royale...Genius in defeating the pro aimer's dominance as luck of loot played a massive role in the genre in more aspects than imaginable...then they brought in auto aim (via or for reasoning of crossplay mostly)...to balance casual (controller) player with mouse + keyboard player...Taking in to consideration that the gaming industry makes almost all it's revenue from casual players NOT pros the biggest obstacle for the industry was to get balance and keep the casual player there playing even when the pro plays to

I remember a time when I played a bit of Battlefield 3 a few years back and I would have 140 kills and the second highest player would have 60...Nice for me but the other 29 (I think) players my team and opposing would quit systematically and it was honestly not fun as I then realized I was ruining the fun everyone else was having by playing a server I liked over and over I basically ruined it

WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS:

EVERYTHING IN LIFE (ESPECIALLY FOR PROFIT) CATERS FOR THE MASSES THAT BRING IN THE MONEY

THE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO GET ANNOYED BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S UNFAIR DOESN'T MATTER SADLY

In every single game of Apex I play there are a lot of players who aim like pros...everyone can suddenly hit consistently from 100m or even 200m away...Only pros aim like pros so now suddenly we have a game where everyone is a pro...SUCCESS FOR APEX they have made all their players pros...until their players go play CS-GO or R6 Siege and realize it was a big fat fake lie

Fortnite introduced bots to make everyone feel like they are good players and give that sense of success/achievement...So ask yourself what Apex does to give that same fictional satisfaction?

Either find a way to convince the developers to make the aiming RAW INPUT not fake (should be a law in games) or make peace with the fact that this game (and a few others) is making everyone feel like a pro because it makes it successful (and keeps the money flowing)...and good luck with that :-p

Count the amount of people active on the Forums by merely scanning replies per topic...Millions of Apex players yet some fair topics only have 3 people interested enough to even just reply...Millions of customers and a handful of complaints...You get the picture? I hate a lot of very easily fixable things about this great game but I am starting to make peace with the idea/concept that some games will just never be what you want them to be because money is a massive factor to consider...fair or unfair as it may be, pleasing the masses makes sense in any industry :-(