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@Merryeth_ I am glad you was in their game to know how this played out. Because im willing to bet you wasnt.... We do not know if this player was shot in the back shot in the face shot from the side. This user has made a lot posts about cheating enough to where the mods now lable the posts as spam posts.

Gibby is by far the hardest legend to kill in the game. If a gibby gets the jump on you then well they gonna melt you no matter what. This is why i asked for video recording of said death. I want to see if they was shot in the face or from behind or shot before being able to reflex their way into a fight.

As i also stated this user may be cheating may be boosting i never once denied this. I simply said at the amount posts this user makes its turning to a cry wolf scenario.

@E9ine_AC Like I said, my only point is that the Gibby IS doing something bannable, I don't care about how he is doing it, you denied that fact on your first answer and that's where I intervened, I do not deny or confirm he is a cheater, I'm just saying it's unlikely that a wraith can be melted without retaliation at this level, I do not have proof and I agree with you on that point, video proof is essential, but here are the facts :
-It's a bronze lad on PC
-It's a ranked
-He is playing at a diamond level despite being 5 whole ranks below ( with being at the lowest rank thus not having gained the 30 RP needed to be III )
-Wraith did not hit the biggest hitbox in the game
-The "Bronze IV" outplayed someone 5 whole ranks above him

To me this is enough circumstantial evidence that Gibby is doing something not tolerated by the Devs. Again, crying wolf is something only kids believe in, if we start discarding experiences for fickle reasons such as previous erroneous ones ( For all we know a part of them may have actually been right, Asia servers are notorious for being terrible to play on because of cheats ) then we both know that nothing will go forward, I refuse to alter my judgment of this case based on previous ones from OP.

@Merryeth_ I am not quite sure how no one here can grasp we do not know where and how this person was shot. You are assuming point blank range in the face? Could been 50 meters behind the wraith. Know how mnany times ive died to ALL legends with doing zero damage to them? Like come on here.... lmao

@E9ine_AC What's the possibility that my level in Diamond 3 will match that of bronze 4? I've played this game for a long time. If you shoot me in the opposite direction, is it possible that my level will not make a counterattack? It must be killed in an instant that we can't fight back

@BrtneySpears If you read all the comments made there is a glitch to place lower ranked players into your lobby. Dude i got over 15k games played over 3k hours in the game played. Even I die without being able to fire a shot.

You have made so many posts of said claims without posting any type of video to back up said claims. Just in 6 months you have bumped or made over 100 posts about cheating with just long paragraphs with no hard evidence.

Again not saying this player was legit and not cheating. I am saying at the rate of the posts you have made and mods openly stating that your posts in the future on this topic will be made spam. You have posted nothing to back up said claims but just posting. So you can understand why some can be hesitant you know how many on these forums are highly out played and claim the person is cheating because they was simply better?

Do you think that because your high level a low level cant kill you? You think its impossible for a bronze to kill a plat? Cause ive died to level 1's and above. I am series 3 pred i play a lot i mean a lot. I die a lot i mean a lot. No one is un killable. This does not mean they was cheating.

@E9ine_AC I don't want to complain about how many cheaters there are every day, but if you are in my environment and play for a period of time, you will find that what I say is not a lie. No one wants to complain about how many cheaters there are in the game. Everyone wants to have fun in the game. Not all Chinese players will cheat, but there are some people in China who play it Any FPS game will cheat and even develop software, and it will be sold in Chinese forums. You should be thankful that someone gives positive feedback about what happened in the game Instead of thinking that there are no cheaters, and we are complaining
Their programs are constantly updated every day, constantly trying to cheat your easy anti cheat, and they succeed. I know you work hard to ban cheaters, but they update programs faster than you think

@BrtneySpears I truly understand i put in up to 12 + hours a day in apex i see them too. But I dont post about them here simply for 1 reason. Devs are never on these forums. Cheat teams are never on these forums.

You need to make these posts on the apex reddit if you want people who can actually do something about it to see it.

@E9ine_AC This is also a void argument simply because you were not there as well, you can't say "You weren't there" and then use the same argument to prove your point.

@Merryeth_ Correct without video showing exactly what happen its all speculation and dead end conversation the user already admitting to possibly over exaggerated the claim. Thus being normal from this user. Some of us are on these forums a lot and we see everything. Myself being one those. This is like telling Mcdonalds as exmaple. There was onions on my burger but not providing a burger to show there was onions.

The snipit that was posted of the death is by no means a normal cheat we here on the forums see. 2 headshots out of how many? While real cheaters its other way around. All head shots but maybe 2. I got thousands of death reports of such a claim. But I also take it directly to Conor to ensure the ban sticks quickly.

@BrtneySpears Please post this very picture on twitter and tag Conor.

https://twitter.com/rspn_hideouts?lang=en

He will look into the account for sure and ban him if the exploit was used by him and the people he was partied with will also meet same fate if it is found they did this exploit.

@E9ine_AC I just exaggerate the distance, but the fact that they cheat really exists. However, banning a cheater can't play any role. We can't log in to twitter due to various national reasons, so we can only let relevant personnel help to convey the truth of the game, cheaters and real pro There are substantial differences among players. Real pro players will shoot you through map application, war situation analysis and flexible body position instead of melting you instantly,
And the real pro players can be hit. If you aim at them accurately, you won't lose any bullets. But the cheaters are different. I don't know what's wrong with their network. However, more than 60% of the bullets will be hit. The registration calculation error can obviously feel the same aim, but the trigger effect is completely different If there is a mistake, the aim will be included, but it will not be very serious every time
I don't want to say too much, we can't log in to Twitter to report the truth of cheating in the game, so! We can only let you staff help to convey information through this, not to vent the negative emotions in the game every day, just hope that the truth will be conveyed!

@E9ine_AC I agree with most except the cheating headshot claim, silent aimbots has been developed 10 years ago now and perfected for a bit less, it's actually interesting how little is known about it by communities even tho it's probably the most prevalent type of aimbot, basically, instead of snapping to heads or an hitbox like most free aimbots made by amateurs, they "slowly" drag themselves toward an hitbox, think aim-assist but actually really really unfair, it's less conspicuous and more importantly, doesn't show anomalies as easy, it's a real plague.

@BrtneySpears Anyone despite the region can log into twitter. VPN will allow this. Unless your country has a bans on VPN being used this is how a lot actually are able to log in from countries not supported.

@Merryeth_ Your correct with silent aimbot. But for past few months pics on the forums and on twitter show these cheaters are not remotely trying to hide the cheats they are hitting major pro players / streamers full head shots. Not saying silent aimbot isnt there at all just that actual cheat posts that are put up show these users not even trying to hide them.