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Rising Veteran

2 years ago

At this point, bad SBMM has to be on purpose right??

You cannot convince me that this is anywhere close to a balanced lobby.... I don't know what Respawn has been doing, but it aint working.

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reconzero

Seasoned Ace

2 years ago

@Anjunakrokus

If the match one Horizon and match two Octane were made to sit in the lobby waiting for enough players of equal skill then they might well never get a match at all. Especially if on a low-population server at off-peak hours, etc.

Not trying to make excuses, but that's how matchmaking has always worked in every shooter I've ever played over the last 23 years. They're all the same. The devs aren't trying to make the game the exclusive fiefdom of the top 5% of the player-base, but that's exactly how it works in practice. They're here to shoot and we're here to give them something to shoot at.

And also, results are at their worst when you play a non-br game type.

Anjunakrokus

Rising Veteran

2 years ago

@reconzero I understand that there will be a skill width within a lobby. Some will be slightly batter, some will be worse.
But if Apex would take longer than 15 seconds to find a match, maybe the matches would be better.

I'm fine with waiting 2 minutes, if that means I don't waste 30 minutes on pointless matches. And I don't think you could argue in good faith that my gonk 0.8 KD * is "closest in skill" to these people on my highly populated european servers

reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Anjunakrokus

You're absolutely right. But you and I and all the other average players are not the problem. It's the outliers at the extreme ends of the bell curve. They're the ones who get put into our matches because even if they were willing to wait two minutes (or ten or fifteen) there's no guarantee the game could accurately match them in that amount of time. I'm not saying that sbmm is complete garbage in this game, but I think it would be fair to say that it paints in very broad strokes. I don't like it either, but this is the nature of the game. And all the others from what I've seen. Sorry I can't offer any better news.

"I'm fine with waiting 2 minutes, if that means I don't waste 30 minutes on pointless matches."

If you're surviving until the end of the match then you haven't wasted your time even if the last squad is a predator three stack who vaporizes you on sight. That said, it's the only compelling argument I've ever heard for hot dropping. Getting destroyed in the first 60 seconds of the game could be considered by some to be preferable to making it to the final three and getting the same outcome. It's not how I feel about the game, but I do kinda get that way of thinking.