Can we nerf the Peacekeeper finally?
This gun is stronger than the Mastiff, and the Mastiff is a gold weapon - Developers, how to you rationalize that? Here's a few videos of me in the firing range doing one shot with the PK then Masti...
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Like seriously.. So tired of getting dropped in the BEGINNING of a match by this damn thing whilst I am running around throwing peas at them with a p2020. Then I lose a game cause one damn shot from the PK took ALL my shields. One more (which took awhile cause of smoke) I am dead. Like come on, 2 shots to kill me?
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Community Admin@SolitaryMassacre C'mon, please don't be inappropriate, we edited your post to tone it down.
Edit: Patch notes are up, the details of the nerf are as follows:
PEACEKEEPER
- Mag size reduced from 6 -> 5.
- Increased reload time from 2.5s -> 2.65s.
- Increased reload time with empty mag from 3.5s -> 3.6s.
- Slightly increased the scale of the blast pattern from 1.6 -> 1.7.
- @EA_David Lol. I am sorry for that dude. I was all intending to be comical and not hostile. Sorry dude.
- @EA_David The balance for the new nerfs are great. just needs the headshot multiplier of 1x on the pk at 38+ meters to put it in line with the rest of the shotguns.
- @SolitaryMassacre Well, if it’s the beginning, I doubt taking away all your shields was that op, what did you have? Anyway, the pk will be nerfed with the new update, so we’ll have to see if it’s still powerful or mediocre.
@EA_David you did nothing to PK, you try to balance PK like if was a very sensitive weapon, but you drop the nerf hammer so hard on weapons like r-301, r-99 and wingman, stop the weapon favoritism, and nerf PK properly, drop the insane damage to the body, 110 to a body shot is wrong, bullet dispersion is almost non existant, .1 nerf was a joke, no damage drop at distance is wrong, 5 bullets for a weapon with that damage is wrong. I land a sentinel headshot to a guy with gold helmet and land a 105 damage, he land me a bodyshot with PK and make 110 damage, (he erased my purple and some life) that's an example of how broken that weapon is
Honest;y I rather see them put the PK in a Care Package and still keep the Mastiff in the Care Package too.
- u are perfectly right,they lie to us,pk is even better now
- @Ionzur Stop nerfing R-99 and Wingman, those guns got nerfed hard and repeatedly, they did nothing to PK, the first nerf was on season 1 to the rate of fire and since then they literally buff it twice, removed one of those buffs and soft nerf it in the last patch, and the gun still OP, better than a mastiff in most situations and the only players that dont want the nerf are the same ones who abuse PK.
Is a gun with High reward low risk.
Needs a damage reduction by 2 in every pellet and increase the bullet dispersion. Not by .1 like the last patch, that was just a joke. - @Ionzur Did you even read the thread? This thing needs a hard nerf ASAP. Otherwise, thanks for sharing your opinion without reason 🙂
@SolitaryMassacreI I mean, isn't this weapon already nerfed?
- @Ionzur Mag size reduced from 6 -> 5.Increased reload time from 2.5s -> 2.65s.Increased reload time with empty mag from 3.5s -> 3.6s.Slightly increased the scale of the blast pattern from 1.6 -> 1.7.
That was nothing but useless, R-99 and wingman nerfs were far more aggresive, and PK is even more powerful than those weapons.
That's why this thread isn't finish, devs seems to love the weapon, they barely touch the stats. - @Ionzur Nope. It isn't nerfed. It gets changes made to it, but they do not account for a nerf. The gun's performance doesn't become any sort of changed.
@audiofilomx@SolitaryMassacre I get it now 👍
PK needs damage lowered by 2, reduced pellets from 11 to 10, ad 1x headshot multiplier at 38+ meters.
Just a friendly bump to remind EA this gun needs a nerf 🙂
Okay EA/Respawn, more and more threads about this gun being too OP, can you guys please do something? At least reply to one of the many threads with some ideas you have to balance this gun? I really think my idea is all it needs too. So it shouldn't be that hard to implement.
But please guys, pay attention to your fanbase.- @SolitaryMassacre It does get nerfed. Those are clearly nerfs, and it does affect the gun’s performance.
- @Leo_the_Lion25 The PK could use another nerf, but your idea would * it. One of those could take it down quite a bit, (not the headshot thing, which is a really good idea and could be used with the other two, maybe.) If you do both of the major changes, it would really destroy the gun and reduce it more to mid tier.
- @Sir_Named Anyone who in denial about the pk is an abuser of the weapon.
The changes puts it in line with the other shotguns except the Mastiff which will remain the best Shotgun.
Even Timmy said the PK does damage similar to the mastiff and there's no need to switch from pk to mastiff which is just dumb.
Once PK gets nerfed in the damage, best shot guns will be
Mastiff
PK and EVA-8 on the same level if PK gets a nerf by 2 damage and 1x headshot multiplier nerf added at 38+ meters
Moz dead last @Leo_the_Lion25First, I haven’t used the PK much recently, so I don’t “abuse” it. Saying that someone uses something just because they defend it doesn’t really mean much. I can defend whatever I want to, and I can defend stuff I don’t use. I’ve stopped using the PK because I can no longer get that sweet shot with 90 damage. I understand many people feel it should be nerfed a little more, and I think that’s fine, but you shouldn’t get too carried away.
Second, it is in line with the Eva-8, but it is supposed to be a bit stronger.
The PK can do similar damage to Mastiff, but even a full headshot on pk does less damage than full body shot on Mastiff. Plus, at longer ranges, you need to charge up the pk in order to actually get close to Mastiff damage.
The biggest nerf I think it would need is it’s range, as it can do more damage at a longer range (fully choked, that is) than the Mastiff.
The EVA-8 isn’t supposed to be as accurate, it’s main thing is that you can full auto it, or you can use the double tap to get a similar instant damage to the PK
What the developers want the shotgun list to be is
Mastiff
Peacekeeper
Eva-8
Mozambique@Sir_NamedHa, you make me laugh dude. If those are "clearly nerfs" then me putting a cup of water into the ocean is equivalent to me saying I filled the seas. The "nerfs" they did have absolutely zero affect to the gun. They keep doing all these nonsensical things to it without actually solving the problem. A nerf would solve the problem.
And the only nerf it needs is the one I recommended where I made the picture for it. It IS a shotgun, it SHOULD hit hard, but it is way to easy to hip fire and still hit hard. If I hip fire any other gun, I will get nowhere near the damage the PK does. The hip fire box just needs to be increased, no damage or headshot nerfs needed.
@Leo_the_Lion25@Sir_Named
Go back to the first post in this thread, I believe the 3rd video. I show the PK doing MORE damage than the Mastiff. You can't argue with that. Which I think is funny that nobody brings up because they know they can't argue with that. I agree with Leo, people who don't want any changes to the PK KNOW how OP it is and will always abuse it."The PK can do similar damage to Mastiff, but even a full headshot on pk does less damage than full body shot on Mastiff. Plus, at longer ranges, you need to charge up the pk in order to actually get close to Mastiff damage." I HAVE PROVEN THIS IS INCORRECT STOP SAYING THIS geez. The PK hip fire does more damage than the mastiff hip fire. You HAVE to ads with the Mastiff to get anywhere close to being "better" than the PK, and this causes you to have ADS slow down (WHICH IS ACCURATE) but the PK can put out more damage WITHOUT ads. So what the heck are you talking about the mastiff is 'better'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2K1Y82QZ0w <---- Not a single headshot in there and it is doing more damage than the mastiff. To make the mastiff better i would have to ADS. So you can't say that the mastiff is better. Cause now you are changing more than one variable and that doesn't work when proving a point.
- @SolitaryMassacre You are doing more damage because you aren’t hitting enough pellets with the mastiff. Sure, it’s doing more damage by 10, but get any closer and the mastiff will do more, get any further and you might as well ads.
The Mastiff is better in terms of damage, but you have to actually hit the pellets. If you ads with un choked pk and Mastiff, you’ll see that the Mastiff does more damage than the PK. This still proves my point, as then the Mastiff and PK will both be ads and all the variables are the same.
Yeah, the PK fully choked has a better range, but charging up the choke takes time. This is kind of like a havoc vs r-99. The r-99 is slightly better and the havoc also needs to charge up before actually shooting.
You did not prove it incorrect. I went ahead and looked through your videos. You didn’t go at any further ranges than in the first video, and that wasn’t very far at all. If you go further out and ads, you’ll see the mastiff starting to do better.
Also, when looking through your videos, the second and third one are strangely inconsistent, as the damage values were very different with the Mastiff, but they were at the same range.
Mastiff’s weakness is hip-fire, but ads is superior to the regular pk. Even the hip-fire on the Mastiff still did a lot of damage, with 70 or more. The Mastiff is not necessarily worse that the PK.
You also haven’t brought headshots into the equation at all. With headshots, the Mastiff can insta kill.
In the end, the PK is more forgiving, but if you are good, the Mastiff can be far better than the PK. The PK can be nerfed from 11 pellets to 10 pellets. All they have to do is remove the pellet in the middle of the star shape and then lower the damage by 2.
- @Leo_the_Lion25 Well then that’s 80 if you hit everything, which is kind of difficult if you are strafing and everything. That seems like a huge nerf to the PK, and probably a bit too far. Maybe remove 2 pellets only, or something like that.
Plus, if you nerf the PK a lot, shotguns as a whole will sort of fade into being irrelevant. The EVA-8 is good, but not that good. And the Mozambique is literally at the bottom.
Also, how much would headshots do?
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