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Snyper13's avatar
8 months ago

Caustic and Catalyst buff ideas

Ever since caustic got lower gas dmg, breakable cans, and health bars were able to be seen through his gas, he has been very underwhelming and in need of a buff. And ever since the introduction of perks, catalyst has been underperforming as well. I think that catalyst should have the additional spike perk removed and just added back to her original kit. I think that perk should be replaced with a new one that allows her to throw goo at doors to reinforce them from a distance. I think this would make catalyst much more fluid and viable in the current state of the game. As for caustic, I think people shouldn't be able to see him and his allies healthbars through the gas similar to the way people can't see mirages healthbar in his ult anymore. I also think that either his gas dmg, and/or gas can health should be increased significantly, and people should get slowed in his gas. His gas is extremely underpowered currently and needs a buff.

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  • @Snyper13
    I agree

    -- Caustic: increase gas damage to max and remove the scaler
    -- Caustic: gas damage slows
    -- Caustic: Similar to Bangalore Smoke, hides healthbars and highlights of those within it, except to those within it. Add visual clutter if not already existing, obviously weaker than Bangalore Smoke visual clutter.
    -- Catalyst: spikes 3
    ----- Catalyst: +1 spike perks removed and changed due to becoming base kit
    --------- Idea: A) Spikes deal increased damage upgrade, B) Spikes can be placed on opponents as a durational debuff that hinders and possibly damages them, without adding to spike count.
    -- Catalyst: Add rebuild doors to base kit
    ----- Remove rebuild perk and replace because of adding to base kit
    --------- Idea: Snyper13's idea of throw spike orb at doors to reinforce them from range. Maybe +1 reinforced door upgrade. Orb doesn't rebuild doors, only reinforce them. Orbs used to reinforce from range use door count, not spike count.

    Should I add more? Or more legends?
  • Do the apex devs actually look at these suggestions? Is it a realistic expectation for any of these to be considered added into the game?

  • @Snyper13 I think they dont.. this forum is like a placebo. They do whatever they want.. and planning to milk more money out of it. thats the focus point . more money.
  • @Snyper13 No. Supposedly, the volunteers here will sometimes bring some fan suggestions to the devs if it interests them. We don't know if the Devs ever took an idea from here

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    7 months ago
    @xDarkomantis I've seen some ideas get taken by the Devs. As for the question on whether or not the Devs look at the threads, I'm not sure.

    However, I do know that the Community Managers who look at these threads do send feedback to the Devs. (Its just at that point, its up to Respawn to make the change or not).
  • I believe a really fun and strong mechanic for caustic that would increase his speed of play is being able to remotely activate his traps. This means that there would be an input (button) that allows players to trigger his traps without having to shoot them. This could work similairly and in harmony to the way he can now pick up traps via a button input; now he would not have to sacrifice ammo and mispositioning in order to play off of his utility. 

    How this could work: 

    1. Needs LOS on the trap within 75 meters

    2. Needs to press imput button to activate the trap

    This, I believe would streamline and accelerate his ability to be active in fights 

  • At the current state caustic is totally useless. You can map the enemies locations with barrels, and thats pretty much it.  Needs totally rework and * of more dmg.

  • @Snyper13
    I think caustic needs a buff too
    but I think large legends in general need a buff
    buffing their abilities has constantly caused them to become overpowered and then get nerfed into a useless state
    I think they just need to buff fortified steadily to 20% and then 25% until they have the same succes in death match modes as other legends
    and then something like buffing the gas damage by 2 or more could be reasonable
  • Blekerodo's avatar
    Blekerodo
    New Ace
    6 months ago

    Even if Caustic and many other legends get buffs in s24, so what? In s25 they will get huge nerfs again because Hal or another bigger streamer will start crying. It has happened before and it will happen again.

    But when pathinder had a pick rate above 20% for several seasons in the meta, everything was fine. Respawn has already lost control of its game in every respect.