Caustic is terrible, and the new map shows it
LONG POST! Caustic is a very bad legend. As a Caustic main I am happy the new map came out because it shows everyone how bad he really is. It is very open, and players are starting to see that he can...
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Gas should always have some effect on every player in the game. It keeps gameplay more consisted, less confusing and removing the effect gas has on teammates would nerf other Caustic's passive Nox Vision indirectly.
I believe that Gas Traps, after being activated, should increase their range of effect over time. This would be a compromise to your suggestions for simply an increased range of gas right off the bat. 10% more gas range is barely anything too, I would suggest the Gas range should increase from it's default to up to en extra 30% for Gas Canisters and up to 50% for Gas Grenades. With this change no damage increase is needed, nor any additional Gas Canisters would have to be added to his max amount allowed to be deployed. Simply, a well placed trap could slowly fill an entire room over it's duration, cover larger areas over time and place more pressure and risk on enemy players who are considering running through Gas.
I agree that traps should be able to effect players behind doors, but not all walls. I believe that walls which have openings that can be shot through could have gas pass through them, such as some of the run down buildings on Kings Canyon.
Currently I am debating if Traps should be able to be deactivated completely. With the introduction of Crypto it could be that only his EMP could disable Caustic Traps. However, my previous idea was that Traps are simply more difficult to deactivate - having players have to shoot the very lowest point of a barrel or giving barrels 50 Health to their bases.
More of my suggestions can be seen in my more detailed post I made back in July here:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Legends-Feedback/How-to-easily-balance-Caustic/m-p/8008030#M3422
Other than that, this was a great post with some interesting Buffs.
*edit: some grammar fixes
-I understand your viewpoint on gas effecting teamates, however, I don't agree. There should be distinguishing team colors or effects like on wattsons fences for example. Not being able to play with your team in the gas is a huge holdback on Caustic.
-The spread out effect on the gas is Interesting, however in order to have someone actually run into the gas in the first place, it needs to be hidden which usually means you are putting it against a wall of some sort to hide it. The rage would not reach as intended. If the range increases to Max say in 3-6 seconds however it would make Caustic very strong. You could place one down, shoot it, and smoke out a whole room or area. So maybe this would work.
-I still think Caustic needs more traps and a cooldown buff. Even with 30% increased range over time he needs to be able to cover large open area, or he is restricted to staying around and inside buildings, and his kit should not be situational like it is now. Other legends have something about their kit that is useful Almost all the time.
-I read your post and I like it. I think our Caustic visions are a little different and with a different goal in mind and I am fine with any buffs at this point lol.
@CausticCoffey It's cool that everyone has different ideas, it's fun to find new viewpoints on legends.
Made an actual post regarding my opinion of Caustic traps effecting teammates. It goes over my worries with it's effects to Nox Vision and how different coloured Gas would also be detrimental to other Caustic Players:
As for your response to traps needing to be hidden to be effective - I hope I understood that's what you we're implying - I think traps could still be placed around corners and be used in the same way they are now, my increasing Gas Range idea doesn't really effect this playstyle. It does however make Caustic more viable in larger buildings and wide open areas - such as the new map. A 30% increase over time for the Gas Traps is fine for the Traps as they would mostly be activated indoors or in other close spaces. If you want the Gas to cover an open large area that's why I added that the Ultimate Gas Grenade would increase up to 50% of it's range over its duration due to how it is more commonly used in more open or large areas to quickly cover an area in Gas.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my post!
Good ideas. I'll go over and read your post and see what ya got lol. Any yeah man what good is posting something and not talking to anyone about it. The more people that share and add to this, the more creative it gets. (Also remembering that online people are still people is important xD)
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