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HLNorsemane's avatar
6 years ago

Controller support should not exist on PC.

Either remove controller support from the PC version of the game or remove aim assist on the PC platform. After trying how aim assist works in this game I am absolutely disgusted. It effectively removes all and any need to control recoil, and yes, that DOES give controller players an edge. I've read the arguments "I prefer playing with controller and therefore aim assist should stay" well of course you would if your aim with Mouse/Keyboard was below par, also you got that controller from some console most likely so take that thing back to the console and play against other console players like you're supposed to. This "prefer controller" thing is nothing but defensive bogus. Nobody bought a PC so they could play with a controller, NOBODY. The biggest issue I have with aim assist is the fact that you as a controller player can just sit in the back of the squad and be a lazer turret that doesn't miss a single shot while the guys in front of you are meat shields. And from the look of things, most controller players abuse exactly this. The playfield should be leveled for everyone as much as possible, for noobs as well as pros and by supporting controllers and aim assist on the PC platform, you devs effectively kill that. 

The skill floor for beginners using M/K is much, MUCH lower than that for those who just started out using a controller.. Think about that for a sec and what it means and why so many are disgusted (me included) that aim assist is present in the PC version of this game. A M/K noob would lose 99.99% of the time against a controller noob because the controller player has aim assist. Fact.

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  • TL:DR Version of this very important post:

    Aim assist is very powerful, and makes it very easy to play better than the average keyboard mouse player, which is unfair.

    Aim assist provides:

    - Extremely powerful tracking

    - Reduced/removed recoil

    - Tracking through smoke

    - In some instances of using it, tracking through walls.

    What I experienced in short testing:
    - Aim Snap, used with a shotgun I was almost unable to miss

    - Strong Tracking, with ability to easily get headshots due to not having to spend time tracking, only adjusting inside the tracking.

    - Able to aim down sights through smoke and track enemies, and fire blindly landing a good majority of my shots.

    - Sniper aim assist, I had trouble with this, but I did experience tracking, I just wasn't used to a controller. 

    When I used this in training, my friend was unable to kill me before I would lock on, and blast headshots as if I was using an aimbot.

    Possible solutions:

    - Remove aim assist on PC

    - Group Aim Assist players differently (Maybe cross platform, force controller players against console controller players?)

    - Severely reduce aim assist on PC (Add recoil, and other changes to make it fair against keyboard/mouse users)

    I really think Aim assist is causing a lot of false cheating reporting on Apex. Cheaters very much do still exist, but Aim assist is a relatively high power aimbot, built into the game.

  • HLNorsemane's avatar
    HLNorsemane
    6 years ago
    Exactly all of what @4ccbf460f7b926b1 said, except for that "trying to find a middle ground" part through reducing the power of aim assist or something. PC platform should be mouse and keyboard vs mouse and keyboard, period. There is no other way to achieve an even playfield across all skill levels.

    This issue is also actually more messed up then I thought. Through a quick search on youtube the other day I found videos titled something along the lines of "Is your aim in Apex on PC average or below? Then consider using a controller". Aim assist on PC needs to go. As I stated, nobody bought a PC so they could play games using a controller and therefore I will keep arguing the point that the majority of controller players on PC solely does it for the benefit of aim assist.