I think the best way to control the cheater and toxic player problem is NOT to ban them permanently... but rather to monitor them and temporarily mute or ban them. That way they can still be rehabilitated and won't be making a new account each time where they will NOT spend any money on it. Let them keep their stuff so they finance the game then you can easily monitor them instead of waiting for someone to find out they are cheating... 1 rock 2 hits.

@IMightKickAssAnother thing they could do is to only put cheaters into lobbies with other cheaters lol so they can aimbot each other all they want or add bot lobbies so the hackers can just kill AI instead of ruining the experience for real players...@E9ine_AC I still do not think verbal offenses are deserving of a ban in some cases, but other cases they do deserve a temporary ban at the least but permanent is taking it to the extreme

Don't ban cheaters and toxic players Monitor them

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PogeNoob
4 years ago
@Midnight9746 So they play 1 game, realize they are in a cheater lobby and go create a new account, so how is this suppose to help?
E9ine_AC
Hero+
4 years ago
@Hanonaut Players with incorrect names and clubs are most certainly dealt with. The issue is steam itself, not EA. Steam allows any name someone wants to use. While origin and EA have quite a strong name filter steam is free for all. So all that can be done about those are in-game reports to EA about the name for action to be taken. So yes they do punish them this is why there is a report name feature.
Hanonaut
4 years ago
@E9ine_AC

Issue with Steam itself you say? How much you want to wager that it will take me less than 5 minutes to find a name that is "offensive' or even straight up illegal on Origin? Does this also imply that Steam/Valve are in violation of EA's TOS?

This is also ignoring the fact that EA is allowing it. Unless Valve somehow has the capacity to force EA to comply with it's rules (or lack). Does EA also have plans to tackle all the offensive names and phrases in other languages? I have seen plenty of offensive names in Cantonese, Mandarin, Malay, Spanish, French and so forth.
What about political stuff? What is the threshold for something deemed offensive or inappropriate? What if someone had the user name TienanmenSq89? That isn't offensive as far as I know, but illegal in some parts of the world. I am looking for a bit consistency here.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
4 years ago
@Hanonaut I only mention trading insults as you have already said multiple times you responded as bad as they did. If you did not report the guy inside the game they may have seen the chat and took action themself. You have no idea if they was banned or suspended nor do I. The thing is you broke the rules and punishment was handed out. If you can not handle your attitude inside the game then I suggest just not typing or engaging with teammates. This is no fault of the user who attacked but your own account for responding instead of being the bigger person and ignoring it reporting it and moving on.
Hanonaut
4 years ago
@E9ine_AC
Responded as bad as they did? So 1 incriminating line against about 2 minutes worth of abuse and in-game trolling? Then victim blame and shame? I would hate to see you in charge of law enforcement if this is what you believe in. You would probably jail a person who survived a sexual assault because they had the audacity to throw a punch and did not report to the police right away!

Why doesn't EA then so kindly "be a bigger person" and resolving the issue because it was a heated thing that happened once out of a thousand game? Things don't ever happen in a vacuum.
Not to mention the punishment is beyond unreasonable. Wouldn't a chat ban, ranked ban, three-strikes or anything of the sort be a far more appropriate thing to do? I don't know what kind of kangaroo court is being run here, but going from 0 to 11 is a bit much. Enforcement is also completely inconsistent, nothing in EA will be done against names and phrases in other languages than English and maybe French and German. Not every parking violation or road rage is a life sentence.

My point still stands that EA often supplies with flaccid and corporate responses that fails to comprehend much without any empirical evidence.
xnehalf
3 years ago
Absolutely agree, because I lost my account for being toxic. I said the word "re****" and I lost my account to perma ban. I probably will not create another account but I would like to get my account back and Play Apex again. I would rather take ban for chat and talking in-game, but let me Play the game i like and i spend money on.
TheApexLegendNu
3 years ago
@xnehalfExactly, they should take away text/voice chat privileges for like 24 hours, 3 days, 7 days, 14 days, 30 days, 90 days, 180 days, a year, or permanently depending on what was said but still allow you to play the game by only using the ping system
imo just saying the r word should be no more than a 3-7 days max at least for a first offense
DudeImAngry
3 years ago
@Palette24carats I disagree with this, cheaters deserve a permanent ban in any game. Toxic players is another thing, devs could mute them for 1 week as a punishment.
xnehalf
3 years ago
@TheApexLegendNub Yeah, they need to change that. I was toxic and I regret that, but instead perma ban me they should let me play. I didnt give myself unfair advantage by using cheating and that is gamebreaking. I was toxic so I should be ale to play, but not be able to talk.

These punishments that EA gives are not equal to reasons of getting them.

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