EA Nerf Wingman pls
Wingman is always OP in these seasons. High damage, no damage falloff and suitable for all range combat. Wingman is just a PISTOL, so please at least add the damage falloff like other guns. And in...
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@InsolentLizard You mean the video in #12? Please, of course they will lose as there are many disadvantages that wingman cannot help them win (even acau can't win as the opponent team is not idiots). As I said, if
wingman helps them win in that situation, it is not OP but it breaks the game.
Despite that this game is in a fictional world, at least the REMAINING part should follow the physics if SOME OF THE PARTS ARE FOLLOWING THE PHYSICS. The remaining part isn't meaning the whole other parts of the game. Lets take the damage falloff range as an example, even snipers has its headshot falloff range of 500m (if I remember it right), but wingman has infinite range, means that even the bullet travels 500m, snipers can only deal bodyshot damage while wingman can still land a headshot damage on people. I can't explain this and I hope someone can explain this to me.
You said hip-fire of helmok can deal similar damage to people in mid-range. I really doubt about the accuracy of hip-fire when fighting in a mid-range. Can you send something to proof that helmok can deal similar damage in the real mid-range fight?
Last but not least, you said that it is his fault for him to lose a wingman while using G7. He might have his own fault of his movement or something etc, but the problem of wingman is that it can still have a good rate to win when fighting ARs in mid-range. I can't imagine how you can win this fight by using RE-45 or P2020, even he has a terrible aim or movement, and the fact that you should mind your bullet consumption. Surely it takes some skill to play, but there is less people (I can't say none) who can make P2020 or the mozabique good that able to fight with ARs in mid-fight, as pistols are not supposed to fight in mid-long range. But the unlimited headshot range of wingman makes it capable to fight, which is the problem I am talking about.
wingman helps them win in that situation, it is not OP but it breaks the game.
Despite that this game is in a fictional world, at least the REMAINING part should follow the physics if SOME OF THE PARTS ARE FOLLOWING THE PHYSICS. The remaining part isn't meaning the whole other parts of the game. Lets take the damage falloff range as an example, even snipers has its headshot falloff range of 500m (if I remember it right), but wingman has infinite range, means that even the bullet travels 500m, snipers can only deal bodyshot damage while wingman can still land a headshot damage on people. I can't explain this and I hope someone can explain this to me.
You said hip-fire of helmok can deal similar damage to people in mid-range. I really doubt about the accuracy of hip-fire when fighting in a mid-range. Can you send something to proof that helmok can deal similar damage in the real mid-range fight?
Last but not least, you said that it is his fault for him to lose a wingman while using G7. He might have his own fault of his movement or something etc, but the problem of wingman is that it can still have a good rate to win when fighting ARs in mid-range. I can't imagine how you can win this fight by using RE-45 or P2020, even he has a terrible aim or movement, and the fact that you should mind your bullet consumption. Surely it takes some skill to play, but there is less people (I can't say none) who can make P2020 or the mozabique good that able to fight with ARs in mid-fight, as pistols are not supposed to fight in mid-long range. But the unlimited headshot range of wingman makes it capable to fight, which is the problem I am talking about.
@Xx__Miku831__xX Its no different than the majority of people running the R99.
At least with the Wingman your shots have to be on point and if you miss you get dropped, unlike the R99 where you can spray strafe reload and spray again. I dont have a problem when I'm dropped by the Wingman as I was outplayed unlike the 99.
At least with the Wingman your shots have to be on point and if you miss you get dropped, unlike the R99 where you can spray strafe reload and spray again. I dont have a problem when I'm dropped by the Wingman as I was outplayed unlike the 99.
- @xx_Dante2k_xx But I doubt that all other guns can do the same thing too (shoot and strafe). As R99 is a SMG, it has its advantage of close range battle. I have suggested a nerf for R99 in the middle of the post if you guys really want to nerf it. Anyway, this post focus on whether wingman should be nerfed and how to nerf, not the R99. So it is better for you to make a new thread name like : Nerf R99 quick. Something like that.
- @Xx__Miku831__xX I know I was just saying that the Wingman is a high risk high reward weapon.
No point in an R99 thread. People drool all over the thing on here and you cant say anything bad about their precious little gun so no, waste of time making a thread. - @xx_Dante2k_xx Wingman is not as high risk as you think.
When you are poking from the mid-long range with other team, both of the teams have a smaller chance to get downed by someone at that distance (or at least they need more time to push your team that you should be able to revive them, but it rarely happens to really down a people at long range except someone is using kraber). Wingman can use as AR as they can poke 100% damage at that distance, and it uses only 1 bullet per 45 damage. Surely you guys will say that AR can deal more damage at that distance, but the problem is that you use more bullets than wingman in most situation to deal same amount of damage (G7 only deals 30 per shot, sniper bullets also uses more as it can only stack 16 bullets in one stack), and actually wingman can also output similar amount of damage in any period of time. Hence, both ARs and wingman share the same risk, but wingman has a higher reward, and this is one of the problems that I have mentioned in the thread.
*You are also wasting time here as this post is not talking about the R99. Even you think that it is wasting time, I think it is better for you to make a new thread.
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