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Midnight9746's avatar
3 years ago

EAC Isn't Cutting It

Besides the top 1% being on smurph accounts or dropping their main accounts to lower skilled lobbies, the game is chalk full of aimbotters and wall hackers.

There's players hitting nothing but head shots, players camping areas they normally wouldn't camp, (and I'm talking about camping spots that are 100+ meters from the next ring and they have zero reasons to be sitting there), too many console players using xim or strike packs, bunch of players having zero recoil, (with the pros, you can tell they're fighting the recoil as there's usually some upward motion, however these players that I'm seeing have none of that, they're firing guns like the R-99 long range, and they're hitting all their shots).

I've even reported blatant aimbotters a few seasons ago, and by "blatant", I mean they're snapping player to player, including ones behind walls, and their bullets are only hitting the other player's heads, and somehow these cheaters are still playing.

Easy "Anti-Cheat" is a joke, and should just get replaced already. Other games that use it also deals with the same surge of cheaters, so its clearly has proven ineffective. Especially when it seems to ignore player reports when it comes down to those who are clearly cheating.

Although despite players complaining about the game's problems, I'm well aware that we're most likely are not going to see any changes in how the anti-cheat works. However, using ones that rely on player reports is a bad move. A lot of players tend to ignore and think the cheater is actually good, and those who recognize it as a cheater tend to get ignored by the very program meant to help them.

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  • EA is already working on a new anticheat, not sure if this will be used for Apex or when this AC is done.

  • @Midnight9746 I'd say nearly 70% of console preds are using strikepacks or some mod. Until they actually make it bannable the game will continue to die because people can't be bothered going against non stop strike pack users diamond plus. The 3 stack preds in diamond lobbies are also driving people away, I know myself that this has ruined ranked as I can't even be bothered grinding it anymore, barely playing this season due to issues to be fair.
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    Midnight9746
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    3 years ago
    @XHelperZ Ew... kernel level anti-cheat. I've already posted on the thread why I feel that way as well.

    @DaleFox2012 Yeah, pretty much the problem as well in terms of the console players running strike packs or mods. The game is also losing players and the matchmaking is so broken that the top players aren't helping by being in lower lobbies.
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    XHelperZ
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    3 years ago

    @Midnight9746 

    Do note that EAC also runs at the kernel level.

    Vanguard has it's kernel-level driver running from startup, whereas EAC only starts the kernel-level driver when booting up the game.

    I think people always throw too much shade towards kernel-level anticheats, it's pretty much a requirement to have nowadays, otherwise it wouldn't really stand up to cheats making it possibly even easier to bypass.

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    Midnight9746
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    3 years ago
    @XHelperZ Oh that makes a bit of sense. Having it turned on from the start only helps ensure nothing got past it. Part of the problem with EAC though, is that people can get past it by somehow turning it off. I think Valorant's is more smart about it and gets flagged when the player tries to turn it off.
  • @Midnight9746 I hate cheaters as well. What is alternate option for easy anti cheat?

    It is better than none but what would be a perfect match?

    Actually cheating and anti cheating software is kind of arms race. Games evolve for example from DX11 to DX12 and new commands might give loopholes for cheaters to exploit. Cheaters create new ways to cheat and then game or anti cheat people have to create counters to that.

    Games could be cheatproof but who would like to play DX7 games?

    Also games contain millions lines of code. But could be an exploit for cheater or code could be bug free but still architecture might make it possible for a cheater to get information for wall hacks etc. Bug free game doesn't mean secure and cheat proof game.

    Race cars (FPS games) differ a lot from very secure bullet proof vechicles (high security software).
  • lol there are streamers and "pro players" that got whitelisted from being banned and they are actually cheating.

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