Fix ranked
Is the playerbase really so small that the first match in diamond IV I should be matched up against the top 200 predators? I regularly go up against full stacked masters / predators and i'm solo queu...
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@S8N_Spawn
#1) As of ranked series 1 Apex Predator was the top 0.2% in the world and Diamond was the 2.1% following that. There is still a discrepancy in that if I get top 0.1% of the world almost every single match.
#2) The players that I do want to invite have invites disabled. So I guess I have found ones I want to invite, but cant. I don't believe i'm that picky to be honest. I expect them to actually comm, stick with their team, be decently good at team fighting / shooting, and know how to rotate / not run in by themselves. Pretty reasonable at Diamond rank if you ask me.
#3) I understand its not a solo game, in that case, a mic should be a REQUIREMENT not something that is optional in ranked TBH. They also need to have a better ranked system than what is currently in place. You cant use the ping system in Diamond and expect a perfect flow with proper comms. Its just not adequate enough. As such, when i'm getting matched up against predators they should at least have the decency to always put other Diamonds on my team. I should NEVER see a Plat IV on my team. Maybe a Plat 1 while at Diamond IV, but not a Plat IV.
#4) This isn't a "me" issue, but thats fine if you think it is. I have never played a game besides apex where I get matched with such a diverse playerbase. In Rocket League as a Champion, I would see a Grand Champion ONCE in a blue moon. It was rare. Apex? Top 100-200 pred almost every single lobby. ( I get it, there are much more players per lobby, but still pretty screwed. ).
@Apathy1337 #1 Alright, so you're in the top 2.3%, and probably closer to the high end on that too since you're not going in with a full squad. Seeing how it's a lot smaller than what I thought (2.3% <<<<<< 20%), you're not going to have a large pool of players to get match up with. You're going to see that full range of 2.3% (and us struggling plats more often on your squad since, well, you're going in solo) a TON because there won't be every one of them playing all the time on all servers.
#2 I get that, just means you'll need to send out more invites. Trust me, I know how you feel, I play 80-90% of the time solo, but I understand it's going to be a crapshoot of randy's on my squad. And I fully expect anyone outside of Bronze IV to get the basics of the game like you said, but I'm just happy if I get on a squad not in a private chat that can at least hear my call outs and throw out a helpful ping, it's the life of a soloist in apex.
#3 Although I agree, I've grumbled quite a few "if you only had a eff'n mic you could've told me _____" while playing, but again, going in solo you have to expect it. The game isn't going to match you up with people with mic's (although... I wonder if that could?) or with people that use good comms, it's only going to match you up with someone in your skill range or rank range.
#4 I think your expectations are a bit high. You're one of the best players in the game whether you want to admit it or not, maybe not as good as the predators, but by your stats, there aren't many people the game can match you up with OR against. I'm guessing most in your rank are going in with full 3 man squads, you'll be lucky getting any of the top 0.2% on your squad going in solo and will most likely go up against full squads of them.
#2 I get that, just means you'll need to send out more invites. Trust me, I know how you feel, I play 80-90% of the time solo, but I understand it's going to be a crapshoot of randy's on my squad. And I fully expect anyone outside of Bronze IV to get the basics of the game like you said, but I'm just happy if I get on a squad not in a private chat that can at least hear my call outs and throw out a helpful ping, it's the life of a soloist in apex.
#3 Although I agree, I've grumbled quite a few "if you only had a eff'n mic you could've told me _____" while playing, but again, going in solo you have to expect it. The game isn't going to match you up with people with mic's (although... I wonder if that could?) or with people that use good comms, it's only going to match you up with someone in your skill range or rank range.
#4 I think your expectations are a bit high. You're one of the best players in the game whether you want to admit it or not, maybe not as good as the predators, but by your stats, there aren't many people the game can match you up with OR against. I'm guessing most in your rank are going in with full 3 man squads, you'll be lucky getting any of the top 0.2% on your squad going in solo and will most likely go up against full squads of them.
@S8N_SpawnExpectations of getting decent teammates and not being thrown into a lobby with multiple 10+ hour a day squads every single lobby is too high of an expectation on a game that has "70 million" players? Lolwut.
Also, I expect that there is ways to fix these issues. Such as in regions with not many players, match solo diamonds against high plat full stacks. Pretty reasonable. In regions like NA, like where I am, if my matches took an extra couple minutes to get better matches I wouldnt give a ❤️❤️❤️❤️. The point is its impossible to get better when you get instakilled by a pred squad. They want to "protect the noobs" in pubs with SBMM, but then throw solo queue diamonds into the wolves and tell em to screw off. Its really misguided.
Obviously the game is dying, because 2% of 70 million is 1,400,000. Lets assume that console and pc are a 50/50 split. so where are the other 750,000 diamonds? Oh thats right, they got off the game because its screwed in ranked and ranked lite and are waiting for Project A ( like me ). Oh well, Project A will be the savior.
- @Apathy1337 Yeah, expecting getting decent teammates (that are near YOUR skill level) is actually pretty unrealistic.
You can't expect the devs to build in matchmaking algorithms that are based off of whether or not someone is solo queuing, they're skill/rank, and ALL OF THE OTHER PLAYERS queuing up to single out 20 full squads of solos/duos/full squads. That's HIGHLY unrealistic, they're looking to make matches as close to competitive as they can with the metrics they're collecting and reduce queue time. Adding those types of metrics creates a cascading effect on resource demand (time, people, hardware, etc.) that makes ZERO sense for them to invest in.
The game is not dying, it is thriving, you may not agree and you can leave and they won't (rightfully so) bat an eye.
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