Gun Recoil

@E9ine_ACI just want to clarify something.

The anti-recoil you're referring to is also present in PS4 on a large scale, because of keyboard and mouse adapters mainly, but also simple third party mods like CronusMax and Strike Packs, among other lesser known but highly popular scripts and adapters. I've never played on PC, my issue with cheaters is on PS4, but it's the same one you face.

Third party mods allowing for keyboard and mouse use are extremely popular in the PS4 FPS gaming scene for obvious reasons, and as a result, so are the scripts and macros for them, identical to those available on PC. People have been cheating on PS4 using a mouse for years, but lately it's blown up monumentally with the increase in options and lack of action by developers. As you know from your own experience and spectating others, it's instantly and abundantly clear when someone is cheating and exploiting anti-recoil. The same can unfortunately be said on PS4, which is my whole issue here.

Undetectable by anti-cheat perhaps, but not by the simple experienced eye during spectating. This is why I'd like a response, not just because they're running rampant, but because on PS4 we don't even have the option to report anybody any more, and haven't for 14+ months. For this reason particularly, as a PS4 player, I feel like our experiences and opinions are being disregarded.

And what makes this worse, is that a large contingent of gamers still avidly believe that cheating on console is rare and difficult to do. That's the scary part, because the more I hear it, the longer I feel it'll take for the issue to get the attention it deserves.

Most players I play alongside and against now, probably due to SBMM, don't have recoil on PS4. That's the unfortunate fact of the matter, whether others experience it at the same level or not, who knows - but I certainly do, and I would invite anyone to watch me play, and spectate my killers and teammates to see it for themselves.

Edit: This is a large portion of the issue I'm referring to. It's a simple addon for the PS4 controller, no intelligence needed, and it is EVERYWHERE. 

https://youtu.be/HW88q85nXdU

And this is what everyone I spectate lately on PS4 looks like:

https://youtu.be/8zV3bPqMGTU

Mate i`m watching a lot of top streamers, and they are all using macro/script for no-recoil, and single fire mode.

What defenders would said about this one?

This is Rogue, one of the best players in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H141bo8Ccg4

Just look at 2.27 and his single fire shooting. If you did not see he changed to single fire, you would say that this is an auto-firing.

Power of the macros.

Lets hail the Logitech G-hub ....

What stance you want EA/Respawn to take on this ? They need to ban half(if not all) the streamers that are using all kind of macros/scripts. And you know what will happen? The popularity of the game will drop significantly and the playerbase as well.

They are banning some streamers from time to time, to make you think their anti-cheat system is working and they don`t care who they ban, but this is just to throw something at your eyes.

I would say it again the game is filled with soft and hard cheaters atm, and the way i see it, they aren`t doing anything to prevent it and clean the game.

We - Fair players are in huge disadvantage.

i would give em a strict warning and suspend them from apex for a day or 2 and make sure they get the msg if they use recoil scripts they will be banned.

problem is they wont even gives us a reson y thy arnt adressing it yet

Bumping. 

And he didn’t have a stock on that rifle! Ridiculous cheat!

Hello EA Mods,

curious how not a single comment was posted by you on this thread? Why is that?

Do we need to start calling more names and posting more vids to get your reaction?

I once got a 1 week ban from this forum witihin minutes after posting some famous streamer names, only accusing them to use no recoil scripts etc. what is still pretty much obvious for everyone!

Seems like no reaction is also a kind of response. So freaking tired of it.

Seems that it is none of your business as long as these streamers and wannabe pro's keep posting their cheating (and getting paid for it) while generating a lot of clicks for you, when the main player base gets screwed.

It is so pathetic, really!

I did have a night of playing Apex a few months ago where the recoil seemed to be disabled. I mentioned that on these boards but people seemed to think it wasn't possible or that I didn't know what recoil felt like. So, to state it differently, I picked up an R-99 and it aimed and fired like a Charge Rifle. It was insanely easy to hit targets far away with total accuracy. It was nothing I did, just for a match or two there was no recoil. Being able to toggle that on or off would be a massive advantage.

@E9ine_AC 

"To cheat on console is a very very hard task to do."

You have seen what strike packs do correct?

@Irres169there was a time where there was pretty much no cheats/hacks on Playstation, and players were legit. This time is over tho.
And the main problem is that its not just Strike Pack, but many more devices that do the work.

And bro on discord there is so many people who openly saying they are using Cronus or SP and they are even arguing with you, that this ain`t cheating, and see how they pretty much do nothing, and if they kill you, its because they are better. And this kids are so sure of its, they make themselves fully believing that they aren`t cheating, and they are good in the game ...