Gun Recoil
Where is it at? Every player who can beam me from 100 meters with a 99 has ZERO recoil. Almost everyone i watch even good pros have zero recoil. This is virtually impossible to not see some kind of s...
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@EldritchElvisThere are also controllers that have paddles that can lower or speed up your sensitivity mid fight like the razor wolverine with agile and focus which allow people to us super high sensitivites that even true pros can't play with consistantly without any muscle memory or fine control at all.
Edit: feel what this is like use the default setting and try to control the r99 then do it again on higher ads sensitivity.
@Brandoblu69 Heh they can easily place a plugin inside the games patcher that when loaded scans cpu for xxx programs. They dont though as if they truly was serious about cracking down on it this is how i would do it. I dont mind Apex scanning my entire machine upon loading the game I have zero to hide.
This is also not me saying i want it banned or anything of sort but if you see xim is being used as example know they are cheating recoil mechanics and block that program. By blocking program i mean Apex wont even load at all if it detects this. Which easily can be done checking USB connections with a simple task bar check.
This is also not me saying i want it banned or anything of sort but if you see xim is being used as example know they are cheating recoil mechanics and block that program. By blocking program i mean Apex wont even load at all if it detects this. Which easily can be done checking USB connections with a simple task bar check.
- @E9ine_AC The issue is that the xim only allow for the binding of keyboard controlls to certain controller buttons and when mouse and keyboard inputs are recieved the xim sends the inputs to through the controller and can't be distingish from a regular controller. Its not a program its a peripheral and its not perfect as the controllers range of inputs are not infinite so like a mouse is so there is alot of work to adjust the settings.
- @Brandoblu69 Xim allows them to grant a mouse and keyboard aim assist. It tricks the pc it self into thinking the controller is the main source so the game follows that logic. When it reality it is the secondary source and mouse and keyboard are main. That combined with G-Hub or other mouse macro builder programs is instant god mode. And its hardly any work at all to do its pure public knowledge with hundreds of youtube videos how set both of them up in minutes.
Point blank if they are using Xim they are exploiting the systems mechanics to cancel them out. Personally I don't think cheats should be banned I think they should secritly be blacklists that way the only people the cheaters can play with are cheaters. Give em a taste of their own toxic medicine.
@E9ine_ACThe macros i would assume are mostly be used for looting, strafe spam, crouch spam, perfect sliding and b hopping. I guess you could use it for single fire weapons too but they have maximum fire rates so....
- @E9ine_AC well the aim assist is just a by product of the pc thinking its a controller it doesn't help that the aim assist on pc is 3 times stronger than on console.
The way that macros actually work makes them very easy to detect as with weapons like the G7 the program will automatically fire every so so many milliseconds as long as the fire button is held down a human being no matter how good they are will not be able to push the fire burn every 500 milliseconds without fail for example there will always be a few milliseconds faster or slower which means just by looking at the input the anti cheat software should be able to detect macros when it comes to recall cancellation it is exactly the same it will automatically apply x amount of downward movement players using this cannot pick up up things like barrel mods as this would alter the recoil calculations for the weapon interestingly enough in the recent armed and dangerous mode with shotguns and snipers only I saw no one who was noticeably cheating as their recall cancellation does not work on those weapon types
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rKPXsxjFVU
Zero recoil whatsoever, zero !
Check the shooting with the Alternator on the jump tower ....
And even if they detect them easy. what? Will they ban 80% of the streamers? And all the watchers on Apex will be probably gone ....
And i`m pretty sure atm that probably 50% of the playerbase if not more are using some kind of cheats/macros/scripts.
Respawn should have act way earlier, now its too late, its a lost cause.
- @LordloshBang And that perfect tracking with no delay lol
- @Brandoblu69 I highly recommend you to go watch some youtube videos just type in logitech recoil script and watch away. These macros are not for looting they completely cancel a games mechanic of recoil.
- @Hilshire12 There is no program other then G-Hub. If there are third party apps other then mouse programs chances are you will be caught. But with logitch g hub all you need is the scripts pull back and delays and such put into the macro and save it. Boom you have cancelled recoil. It is as simple as creating a macro to bunny hop just done with guns. That is what these devs fail to see or understand. Movement macros are one thing but when you abuse said macro to destroy a game mechanic that is called exploiting and according to the Terms of Service is a bannable offense. Yet these guys dont even get warnings. That is my problem.
Logitech gaming software is superior to G-Hub if using logitech.. been using logitech for 10 years now.. apex states that having preset macros on logitech settings can get you banned, but it's very fustrating for them because it's something logitech provides trough their own mouse input and they cannot distinguish what macros in the g-hub are used for
- @tziiware They should find a way before everyone else does it and the game becomes even worse with more accused cheaters. Which in reality if they cant even control their own recoil aim they are cheating for something to do it for them.
Player morals should show them its not right to do. But people no longer have morals instead want things handed to them easy mode. I have played this game 100% legit from the day it launched to now. I refuse to stoop to their levels because im better then that i have morals.
All i want is fair game play i want people having legit control their aim at 150 meters with their 99 the right way. Instead of aiming every single shot perfectly never going off course from recoil. People are good but no one is perfect. Recoil patterns are very easy to throw off on a legit player. Simply because we are having to controll recoil as well as track a moving player. These people only have to track the player. Imo they are complete garbage at the game to use this. Even those who add aim assist to their mouse and keyboard. If you cant play legit then go play easy mode game. Not a game that requires skill and you bypass that skill.
By the way not speaking to you in general just speaking in general. Bumping this problem. Maybe the new guy they hired for cheat team can read this post and see how many people have an issue with people completely removing the games biggest mechanic.
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