How many more topics do we need to create to NERF OR REMOVE THE SHOTGUNS?

Yes, if you stand still next to a person, who use it.

Does apex really ends on submachine guns?

You can always change the weapon and range of combat instead of getting so close to the enemies. I usually try to notice, what kind of weapons they have.

I hit diamond in the first split of season 8, later i lost a bit of interest and played less.

If you start to use it frequently, you will see, that it isn't overpowered. You will rarely hit for full damage, unless someone stands still, or is distracted and shoots at one of your teammates. This is something what you can and should use.

No one complained for 8 seasons and now what?

Thread "Put EVA-8 in care package" coming soon.🤔

Pro already predicted the EVA meta right after the nerf to Mastiff Legend. We went from a shotgun that wants to pretend it is a DMR at close range that can snipe 70+ from afar and can 2 tap even fortified legends, to "A Whole Squad Octane holding W and jumpading into each other face". Wow such an amazing game design philosophy, I can't wait for season 10 when now the next shotgun will be able to ricochet a 90 degree angle and one-shot people if it hit full pellet headshot

It's not fine. It's unplayable.

Never. Devs obviously promote close combat against anything else in this game 'cause it's cool. It's imbalanced as hell, but we are just peasants. Nowadays you only find shotguns in the lootpool, nothing else. More likely to find a golden item than a 2-4x, 'cause respawn does not give a damn about anything else than shotguns

No problem, because most of you are shotgun lovers. Too bad that everyone is now using shotguns. Coincidence? No, I'm just annoyed by them.

No, just no matter what map you are on, always at least third of the kills happen by shotguns...

Problem #1 is occurrence. If you play enough, you'll see a shotgun every single looting area.
Problem #2 is reload speed. You can kill someone with any shotgun, (not counting the mozambique, that is still a joke) while missing 2 shots against a player who has not the best tracking skills.

Problem #3 is movement speed in the game. You can jump on the enemy, covering 50-100 meters in seconds. Switching the engagement from mid range to close range in that time. Take these facts and the dps that any shotgun can do with a blue bolt, and there you have it.

Yes, you can melt a shotgun player with an r-99, but that requires at least 1 purple item,which is pretty specific, and spawns far less than a shotgun and a bolt. And then you still need above average tracking skills, plus purple armor at least. This is how you can defeat an average shotgun player.  I think these requirements are not really in balance.

I get that running on the enemy's face and blasting with a shotgun is fun, I do it occasionally, but this is too much. Feels like the game is forcing shotguns on people. From a balance perspective this is not good.

Changing my playstyle when the final ring is around is not something that's doable...

Landing with another squad and getting literally any other weapon than a shotgun against a shotgun is also something that is hard to dodge. Yes, I know that luck has a role in this game, but placing that many shotguns somehow makes it unfair for people who don't like to use them.

So nerf idea is to remove bolts and reduce "stock" fire rate at least to half of the current ones. Make it require skill to be good with a shotgun.

@BenchwarmerbrewHonestly I don’t think the eva 8 is that broken, its basically the same shotgun it always has been but they might of buffed it to compensate for removing double tap

I do have to say that shotguns in general do not belong in the BR Genre, they do way too much damage too fast and it was even worse on Fortnite because 1 headshot would instantly down you with a pump shotgun 

Shotguns are not as bad in Arena but I don’t think Shotguns and LMGs belong in the Arena because of how easy they are to use and 1 v 3 the entire enemy team with they need to be rebalanced for a 3 v 3 mode and BR in general

im just glad the Mastiff meta is in the past...