If you're not smuring, cheating or aim assist, good luck in ranked.

@Sand_spitter Agreed there's no need for these petty shots. I'm perfectly happy being in a console only lobby and hate the idea of dealing with M/KB so I respect that PC doesn't want to mix with my input either. Not sure why telling other systems what they do or don't need feels right to some players.

@heme725I get that matchmaking would be much slower being in our own input lobbies, but the issue I'm having is that there would be a 1 PC, 2 Console player team where it's usually one of the two things:

1) PC player has cheats, and they're actively using them with the console players acting like noobs, until the PC player is knocked. Then they flip on the strikepack or whatever they're using.

2) The PC player is the noob one, activating cheats when one console player goes down, while the two consoles are just steam rolling the match.

Sure there are these teams, where no one is cheating and a PC player really is playing with their console friends fairly, unfortunately people want to cheat, so I rarely see these legit teams.

No idea if console lobbies had gotten more chill since the cross play, but over on PC, cheating became much more rampant as multiple platforms can be on the same team. We've gone from one here and there, to a lot of them everywhere. It's mostly Gibraltars on controllers though. Season 0 hits differently, as when you saw a speed hacker, it was more funny than annoying, at least for me it was.

Yet agreed, aim assist isn't the issue. Console players just don't have the same mobility as a PC player, (we all already knew that), that's why no console lobby is a PC lobby unless a console player teams up with a PC player, then that console player is in a PC lobby.

I'm fine with cross play (with the opt out option for everyone), if strikepacks, xim, chronus, etc. are actually being dealt with and we get better servers. For now, I'm just seeing console smurphs, on top of everything else.

@Midnight9746 Yeah I stand with any complaint about hacks/mods or any kind of cheating. I don't dispute the possibility of console players cheating disproportionately in PC lobbies since I don't play on PC nor do I have any reason to disagree with that. I only take issue with people taking shots at legitimate players. Also don't feel PC players should be so arrogant as to dictate what features Console needs (or vice versa since we have no reason to care about mobility options exclusive to PC if we aren't on it.)

Personally I'm against crossplay since nobody will agree if it's balanced even if the developers nail it somehow. It would allow them have much bigger lobbies making more game modes possible but this community won't agree on anything.

Or premade.. With randoms it's impossible.