Lets Talk About 'Skill-Based Matchmaking'?

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@Libwonkon wrote:

Hey,

I see surprisingly few comments about the 1v3 as solo pred vs full team of preds in unranked.
I mean there is obviously a problem with MM if they even allow such thing, but its not that you are expected to play as 3 ppl if your matched with low ranked players.
The problem is obviously that the low ranked players are expected to be an par with the other high ranked players. Both in casual and ranked I hope and think they do as much as possible to not match full 3 man squads with solo/duo quers. 

Its way more unfair to the low ranked players you are matched with then to you. You are at least playing in your tier. I think most ppl agree that something is wrong with the current MM system, but to say that disabling it all together would make a perfect world is nonsense. Where all games would be ruined by 3 man pred squads rampaging, with only one such team in a single matchup, it would destroy the experience for way more ppl then the current system is. Averging out teams based on some kind of skill  lvl 1-100 as some have mentioned seems quite good to me, im not sure if thats what they try to do already, evening it out a bit so that the skill difference between players are less for sacrificing fast ques might be a good idea.  

Im diamond player myself, and for my ranked and casual is the same kind of games atm too, most games there are pred duos, full pred squads or cheaters ripping the servers apart.
The point is its not enjoyable for a player like me to get matched vs pred players even tho you are "playing" casual.. you will never be so casual that its even remotely fair to anyone below D1/2. 

Sure i dont enjoy the games where MM turns me into a carry either. The most fun games are the balanced for me, where ppl are around my skill some lower some better, but hardly any on either side of the spectre. 

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Trying to write quick responses to all these new ones! Excuse the rush.

Someone else posted something similar talking about what I refer to as 'backfilling'. The process in which teammates are generally of a fairly lower skill level compared to your own as a result of slow queue times and lack of people at certain MMR tiers. This doesn't happen, but it's like if you queued for diamond IV but there aren't many on, so you get some platinum fill-ins. The problem is then that the skill disparity between diamond / predator and platinum is large enough that your platinum teammates would definitely struggle unless you carry.

I disagree with the idea that matches would be rampant with predators if, for example, things were to go back to how they were without SBMM. This is also not about how I want to play, it's about how I now have to play. The distinction between 'unranked' and 'ranked' matches is so closed in for me. I will also fight the idea that people like me should be sacrificing the idea of getting a casual unranked experience because I and others aren't average skill level players or of the same ranking, and I will continue to fight that idea because it will definitely kill the game. I say that quite seriously, because the effects of thinking that way do not just apply to me, they apply to everyone. To make it clear, this discussion is not just for me. The more someone plays, the more clear their position will be in regards to matchmaking, and it will be a slow drain on people who perform well enough to the point they would be more likely to invest themselves in the game. Along with, of course, everything else I mentioned in previous posts such as being unable to play with friends.