Matchmaking is broken!
So I play with two of my friends and we play mostly Pubs. We are gold level players. Never climbed above gold 1. And yet, in pubs, we keep betting annihilated by players with 4k, Master/Predator ...
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@MariusRZR90 I am reading about matchmaking being broken a lot on this forums - seems like an ongoing thing.
At the same time to play devil's advocate I would like to say:
- you can't complain about high skilled players being present in what seems public games, public always has been like that because it is free for all rather than BR, if this happens in ranked, another story
- if pro players can get 20 kill game = 1/3 of the lobby, there is quite a high chance that you will be killed by such skilled player because he/she will kill 20! players per lobby. Point here - there might be not many high ranked players but they will kill a lot of lower ranked players, because they can. So matchmaking maybe is actually ok and adds only 2-3 players like that which still yields a result of them killing all of the lobby
- people complain about so many things but when you see their gameplay e.g. standing still while looting, not being aware of their surrounding and from where enemy should come, no wonder you get 1 shot Kraber in head, its as easy sometimes in game as in firing range and it has nothing to do with matchmaking, get you basics of the FPS game right 🙂
At the same time to play devil's advocate I would like to say:
- you can't complain about high skilled players being present in what seems public games, public always has been like that because it is free for all rather than BR, if this happens in ranked, another story
- if pro players can get 20 kill game = 1/3 of the lobby, there is quite a high chance that you will be killed by such skilled player because he/she will kill 20! players per lobby. Point here - there might be not many high ranked players but they will kill a lot of lower ranked players, because they can. So matchmaking maybe is actually ok and adds only 2-3 players like that which still yields a result of them killing all of the lobby
- people complain about so many things but when you see their gameplay e.g. standing still while looting, not being aware of their surrounding and from where enemy should come, no wonder you get 1 shot Kraber in head, its as easy sometimes in game as in firing range and it has nothing to do with matchmaking, get you basics of the FPS game right 🙂
- @EREGDS You kind of made our point here.. You say that you see players standing still while looting, not having map awareness.. That's just the thing! These players should be in a lower skilled lobby and not matched against preds.
And just fyi, casual lobbys are still SBMM, it's basically the same as ranked but without a visual indicator for your rank.- @Godisbullen don't know the details and I am not sure if there is an official info how SBMM should be working and in which mode or what parameters it take into account...
As I said my experience with "public" type of games has always been and remain one = it is free for all = place where people go make crazy youtube frag movies, try now things, new moves, explore the maps, do stupid stuff. Most of the players always have been cannonball meat in every game I played before.
Also I am not sure if to be honest same settings of SBMM should be applied to pulic and ranked. Imagine if a Predator or Master player just wants to explore the map or warm up...they would have to wait those crazy long loading times as they do in ranked just to get to the game equivalent to ranked and fail to warm up / explore the map as everyone would again tend to play it as ranked at that level or instantly destroy people who came to "just have fun"...
In any case more info on SBMM from Respawn would clarify things but I guess that's not their style, they rather cash in while making us guess and keep the forum active with posts like this (probably sold some google ads as well).
You are completely right. But... there's a "but" coming.
In a game without SBMM I wouldn't even think to complain.
But Respawn keeps saying that their matchmaking system places me in lobbies with players of similar skill.
Well then, step aside LG_ShivFPS and ACEU. There's a new sheriff in town 🙂
I also understand that players of higher skill would wait a while longer for a match.
But what kind of "Fair" Matchmaking system would place a 1.1 KD/R, 2800 max dmg player with Shiv_F*king FPS and others like him.
The way I figure it, there's a few reasons why this happens.
1) Lower the time it takes for Highly skilled players to find lobbies. Can't find enough players with similar skills for Shiv to play with? Fill the lobby with ~1 KD/R players or lower.
2) Most popular streams are pub stompers. * on their livelihood will probably drive them away from Apex. I like to see iiTzTimmy kill half the lobby as much as the next guy, but let him try that with Masters and Diamond level players. But that doesn't work quite as well for Timmy because he'll lose some of his viewers. Perhaps move on to another game. Warzone maybe?
- @MariusRZR696 there might be some truth in what you are saying about the sheriff - maybe SBMM takes into account the most recent events and stats. E.g. you win a game or have a high kill game, next one will be a tougher lobby for you as game things you are too good for the previous day lobby now. At the same time pro players (assuming you talk about them) get smacked in public lobbies (I think that does happen, they are not godlike after all) - so at that point your stats might be comparable and yours might be even better.
I am quite sure game is not taking into account you "whole" stats over multiple splits and seasons etc. otherwise that would level out over eternity and would keep placing much better players in weaker lobbies as their progress would be way ahead of "average" stats.Agreed. My K:D went from about 3 last season (and every other season), to 1.5 this season. Game is ridiculous right now.
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