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And this is why I once again, think you have no idea how even a PC caustic plays.
Yes, there are camper caustics. Most of the top caustics don't camp, but instead transition in the middle of a server teamfight into a defensive lockdown area so they can funnel enemies, or find an opening to escape the cluster f.
Stop assuming console players camp, they don't all camp. It just moves slower. I play on both PC and console, its only longer gunfights because people miss more (and less cheaters 😉 ).
Good caustics use their traps/gas in fights to create space and to flush teams out. He is also an anti-camper legend as much as he is a camping legend. However, he is not the best at camping, that goes to Wattson hands down.
- 5 years ago@BarretOblivion Being an anti-camper was the reason i was a Caustic main till around S7, sadly that was nerfed a long time ago.
- 5 years ago@BigBlackCaustic ok sure but he was the best legend for camping too !! I'm wrong ??
- 5 years ago
@solo_ARK4NYes, you're wrong. Wattson was always better in pure defense as her pylon counters nearly everything that could be used to break down defenses that counter Caustic and Rampart, like grenades, silence bombs, gas, smoke etc. Thats why she had a 100% pick rate in the camper pro league before she got nerfed and replaced by Caustic as the default defensive Legend.
Caustic used to have less defense but better support and aggressive capability. The same hypocrits who complain that Caustic is a camper are responsible for getting his support/pushing ability nerfed to *.
So tell me what you want, you want us to camp less? Then undo all his nerfs and nerf his defense, thats what most OG Caustics including myself were begging for so your hostility is completely misplaced. Its not our fault. - 5 years ago
@BigBlackCausticimagine being caustic main I'm sorry for you who hurt you
pros and nobody liked caustic meta but dont worry devs love caustic they even call him gas daddy [cringe] ...Watson meta was better now every fight is bubble fight and gibi ult and end circle throw you caustic ult to enemy watch them die this was better for you ???
- 5 years ago
@solo_ARK4N Lets be more accurate here. Rushers don't like Caustic. They've been buffing and nerfing Caustic based on the desires of the aggressive player. Allowing his teammates to move more freely in gas and decreasing the slow/blind/damage to enemies so that he's less oppressive when you push him.
If most of the community hates him then adjust him even if he's not OP. The question is what role/purpose do you want him to have? He either needs to be versatile or dominant in the area he specializes in but give him something.
- 5 years ago@Zamaha400 this is the thing every pro suggested to remove the slow whe you in his gas slow was biggest problem.
- 5 years ago
@solo_ARK4N Maybe a Caustic main like @BigBlackCaustic can correct me but I believe that the slow+blind effects are mainly what they wanted to keep. Without the slow effect players won't stay in the gas long enough for it to be effective. Players leaving the gas too quickly also makes Caustic's passive worthless. The gas man would still be good for blocking doors but players could push past his traps and melt the Caustic team with minimal risk.
To compensate for his loss of the slow effect you could quicken the animation for his traps and eliminate every nerf to his tactical that Caustic's received. This makes him slightly less useless in open spaces and allows him to be an aggressive legend that's a hard counter to camping again.
I kind of want to listen to the opinions of pros because I'm pretty sure they were just being selfish here. Wanting tweaks that makes the game more rusher friendly even if it unbalances a character they don't like. I could be wrong but most players (pro or not) push for changes that suit them while disregarding other playstyles.
- 5 years ago
@Zamaha400Im a rusher. I hate caustic. I can't even describe how pissed I got when some enemy caustic that was afk the whole fight gas bombs a house and rezes his two pepega teammates, without me being able to do anything about it. OP caustic was a slap to the face of every hyperaggressive player out there.
But I still have sympathy for caustic mains bc the feeling of having your main gutted is awful (pathy player here).
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