Nerf lifelines revive
Increase the cooldown on her revive drone that she puts down so she can still shoot and move around. That single handily won the team the fight. Theres no reason she should be able to do this every f...
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@E9ine_AC wrote:
@TperodactylLL kit is fine. There is ways to counter this and until some learn how to they will keep repeating the same out come. Its why you do not see many posts asking for its removal. Its been here so long that most know how to control it now.
Disagree completely. There is million of posts, and even EA Devs said that its annoying as hell and there is million of complains about it. Its in the AMA on Reddit if you don`t believe me.
I guess you know who NRG_Mohr is ? He returned recently and he said this is the most ridiculous thing he ever see, and that is completely unfair. Even he ask ok what i do in that situation? His team was knock, and 2 of the enemy team was knock, but they were behind a rock and Lifeline keep resing them, he keep getting downing them, but he needed to move of course to heal, until he run out of heals of course and died.
Yeah there is a situation where you can counter it, but there is million other situation where you are pretty much .....
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Lifeline auto-revive is a noob no skill move, that its unfair, its make the game even harder for solo queue players, its unfair in any situation, and you should not reward a team that get knocked or received way more damage, then they inflicted. Also you should not reward a stealing kills like that.
If Lifelines revive was so OP, people would start using it in pro games, which they dont. Lifeline has pretty much a 0% pick rate in pro games. Gibraltar is a much more OP reviver. Dome + Ult = guaranteed revive with extra time to pop a bat before enemies can even approach.
Sure, the revive is rather strong in certain situation but without it, Lifelines kit would be utterly useless so if they removed it they had to buff her in some other way. Also, MOST legends are OP in certain situations so when we discuss legend balance, we must see it as a whole, and as a whole, I think LF is in a good place balance wise.
@BalladalidilaThe devs feel she is not currently balanced as well, they have said it themselves her ultimate is too underwhelming while on the flipside her passive is too strong so she will be getting some power shuffling soon so basically a rework
I wouldnt mind such side grade. I have been a Lifeline main since week 1 of this game and I feel her kit is quite boring. You literally run around as a legend with no real characteristics at all (apart from the negative low profile passive) and just hope that you get yourself in a situation when you can utilize her revive passive, which maybe randomly happens in 1/3 games (that is, when it actually is a significant variable in your teams success) .Her Q is rarely a significant variable and is more a "nice time saver" after you win a fight and have to heal up and her ult is also quite boring since, unless you spam ult accelerants or charge towers, most of your team already has purple when you get it.
- @Balladalidila During dummies big day they had that one ultimate where it would fully heal everyone instantly... I don’t know if that would fit into lifelines kit or not, someone mentioned combining that with her care package ult but im not sure
@Balladalidila wrote:If Lifelines revive was so OP, people would start using it in pro games, which they dont. Lifeline has pretty much a 0% pick rate in pro games. Gibraltar is a much more OP reviver. Dome + Ult = guaranteed revive with extra time to pop a bat before enemies can even approach.
Sure, the revive is rather strong in certain situation but without it, Lifelines kit would be utterly useless so if they removed it they had to buff her in some other way. Also, MOST legends are OP in certain situations so when we discuss legend balance, we must see it as a whole, and as a whole, I think LF is in a good place balance wise.
Dome + ult guaranteed revive + extra time if the enemy team is away, if they are next to you, dome+ult guaranteed nothing while Lifeline do.
And how many times we need to write that no one wants to remove her auto-revive and leave her with nothing? Isn`t it useless to repeat the same thing over and over again ?
She needs rework, better tactical + ultimate. Her old passive was fine. She was top 3 pick before, and she was used heavy in ranked.
Season 6 and S7 she was used heavy both in ranked(which include high ranked and extremely in Pub).
Just before Season 8 drops, there was stats, and Lifeline usage was 10.5% higher than Pathfinder and on bar with Blodhound. Wraith has pick rate of 11.4%, and Gibraltar 6.1%.
Just remove her auto-revive and never mess with revive again and rework her completely.
@LordloshBang wrote:Dome + ult guaranteed revive + extra time if the enemy team is away, if they are next to you, dome+ult guaranteed nothing while Lifeline do.
In higher Elo ranked, like d3+ and and pro games, Lifelines revive in close range fights aka "next to you" will 9/10 fail anyways and often end up with the knocked guy getting executed i.e you put him in a worse situation by using it since he cant defend himself at at with his knockdown shield. Good players will know exactly how to take full advantage of the 3v2 advantage they get from a knock. I dont say that Gibbie is better at reviving at close range fights but Lifeline is at best only slightly better.
@LordloshBang wrote:
And how many times we need to write that no one wants to remove her auto-revive and leave her with nothing? Isn`t it useless to repeat the same thing over and over again ?
No, just like I said; if they remove (or just nerf) the revive passive, they have to buff her in some other way since the revive passive is the only thing that makes her viable. I never said I was afraid they "would leave her with nothing". So to answer your question: Yes, you will repeat the same thing over and over again when you are arguing against your own arguments.... A waste of time if you ask me but we are all different I guess.
@LordloshBang wrote:
She needs rework, better tactical + ultimate. Her old passive was fine. She was top 3 pick before, and she was used heavy in ranked.
Season 6 and S7 she was used heavy both in ranked(which include high ranked and extremely in Pub).
Just before Season 8 drops, there was stats, and Lifeline usage was 10.5% higher than Pathfinder and on bar with Blodhound. Wraith has pick rate of 11.4%, and Gibraltar 6.1%.
You are absolutely correct. Lifeline has always been a top pick in casual and in low to mid ranked. When dreamteam.gg was working, you could see she was up their as top 3, after Wraith and Pathfinder. In S7 however, she was the 5th overall highest pick after Wraith, Bloodhound, Horizon and Octane in that exact order. However, you dont see her as much in higher elo (D3+) and you NEVER see her in pro games, which was my point. I know it comes down to different metas in pubs, low/mid elo ranked, high elo ranked and pro games, but if you ask me, you should always balance a competitive game according to the highest elo, i.e pro games, and thats why I argue that its a bit far fetched to say Lifeline is OP when she literally has 0% pick rate in pro games.
But once again, just like I said; I wouldn't mind such a rework of her (nerf revive, buff something else like ULT) even if I don't think she is currently OP, because I do think she is quite boring and uncharacteristic.
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