I don't know whether this is part of the awesome SBMM but putting trios up against those who play the game solo is NOT fun for either party (solo queuer who just got wiped out by a premade yet again, level three!). The solo queuer's get wiped out because the trios have much better comm's, co-ordination and familiarity, which leads to a massive well of resentment and lack of fun. And the three stacks steam roll the opposition so they don't get the challenge they should have. NO FUN for anyone.With the apparent playerbase we're told about in the EA earnings call there is NO REASON for solo queueing people to have their fun derailed by sweaty premades....don't destroy the game for people who play solo, because that's what this does.

Premade squads biggest advantage, especially in the end-game, is in my opinion that they are always three because they there are no leavers in premades. When you play solo, you are usually alone if you survive to the end game since everyone just insta-leaves if they get knocked. But there is nothing that stops us from playing premades tbh. If you cant beat the, join them.

So essentially Apex is not a game you can play on your own if you want a balanced or fair experience....that, quite frankly, is ridiculous and mandating a full premade to stand a fair chance is going to have a negative impact on player retention. I want to play on my own, can deal with crappy team mates, but can't deal with the 4k Pred teams that just stomp everyone because they function as a top tier team.When there are more than enough people in both categories, teams and solos, and it's recognised that solos perform worse than a team.....well there's no reason at all to try to discourage solo players through that additional artificial difficulty. Premades know how each other play, can communicate via discord to co-ordinate pushes and share heals and also how to retreat....the leaving thing is just an added bonus. Proper teamwork is essential late game and a trio will always have better team work than three solos. I want to play this game solo, in part because i don't have a functional mic and also because I don't want to deal with performance expectation....you're telling me that I essentially can't if i want a good experience.

Loaded into a match as a duo today (as in solo queuing and no third appeared). Killed by a three stack.STOP THIS MADNESS NOW. IT'S NOT FUN.

@SunlessMeridian100% Agree, with the way sbmm is working too it's horrible seeing a pre made team with the best badges as the games champion squad. Makes me give up before the games even started. Three players, each capable of dealing over 4k damage and dropping a third of the lobby, all communicating and playing strategics against players like us matched with one guy who spends enough time looting to kit out the whole lobby, the other just runs around in F'ing circles, while you get focus fired by 3 apex predators? No thankyou.

STOP DOING IT! I'm sick of my kill feed being full of premade squads from community forums.You're killing the game for solo people.....why am I ever facing these squads when I play on my own.....

Never put trios up against people who solo queue

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TommyButs
New Scout
6 years ago
I haven't played Apex in 5 days and I come back to get stitched up by the Matchmaking again.
Attempting to play Trio's on Worlds Edge:
Game 1: 3 Players
Game 2: 2 Players
Game 3: 2 Players
Game 4: 2 Players
Game 5: 3 Players
Every time that I don't get paired with a full Team, I will continue to select my least used Character (Revenant) and immediately quit the Game and reload in the hope of getting paired with a full Team.
It's bad enough that Players who Solo Queue for some strange reason have to Play against countless Pre-made Squads, it's even worse when Apex's abysmal Matchmaking attempts to further disadvantage me by not pairing me with a full Team.
There are so many issues in Apex right now, you are continuously driving your player base away from your Game.
Galen_peck
6 years ago
The thing is, when you go solo in a 3 men squad game, you are reducing the possibility of winning a game for you AND YOUR TEAMMATES.
True, nobody can force you to play with a team, but you have no right to mess with other players game.
Democracy goes both ways...
True, if I was a better player I would go solo every time the game mix me up with level 20 guys.
Can I ask you one thing?
If your teammates are noobies and they jump in the caos, don't worry, you will be alone 1 minute after you landed. If they survive, give them a chance to win the game with your help.
I'm an average player, but every time 1 team mate goes solo I never win and barely reach first 5.
SunlessMeridian
6 years ago
Hello? Tap tap tap? HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME????
This is still happening. I'm solo queuing and getting put against, not only three stacks, but three stacks with insane stats. No wonder the player population is dwindling when you're actively being pushed away from playing the game.

FIX THE MATCHMAKING! 99% of solo queue players would happily wait longer for fairer (and therefore more fun) games.
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@SunlessMeridian I think they are working on separating solo queuers and premades for S5.

They probably shouldn't separate it for Ranked though, as ranked is very competitive and you basically have to get a team in the higher tiers. It's a team game, so people who put the effort in to get a team for Ranked should do well.
SunlessMeridian
6 years ago
@Sir_NamedI understand your point but disagree. Solo queuing ranked and being guaranteed only facing other solo queue'd players would be a much better indication of player skill. The RP ranking system ranks players individually (there's one #1 player, not a #1 squad) and effectively punishing people (and diminishing the ranked experience) who haven't got the time to find a full squad is a poor system.

It's by the by anyway because Ranked play from D3 up is completely unbalanced and not fit for purpose.
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@SunlessMeridian True, but it is competitive play. In a team game. They have personal SR so that if you don't have a team, you still get placed with people who are approximately your skill level.
But it is competitive play, in a team game, so premade teams will do better. Take Overwatch for example.
666wintertime66
6 years ago
This is probably just me but, I'm tired of queuing for a trip, and ending up only having a duo or being by myself.
Sure just quit but if it's game after game then it gets annoying. I wish that they would make it more balanced.

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