New TTK ZZZZ
You have officially turned apex into snooze fest. TTK is soo low that the matches are very short long runs to even find people. I knew i had no life already with games played but not you have doubled...
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@KelRiever this game does have respawning though. It is actually the BR that popularized that concept in the genre...They literally lowered the difficulty of the recoil on the hemlok (a gun that could already two burst you), lowered the burst prowler recoil (a gun that could already two burst you), reintroduced the devo (the strongest gun in the game), made the triple take fire faster (can also consistently two burst you now), and introduced the volt which copies the r301 recoil pattern, but is somehow even easier to control and does more damage per shot. Oh and they made the havoc recoil easier to control and reintroduced turbochargers. How does this make the game more skillful exactly?
What you say is all true. But that doesn't mean the game is less skillful.
If anything, sniper rifles SUCKED! And yeah, now the triple take is great, and it should be used by you for sure. All seasons have gun meta and energy guns are clearly meta this season (except the L star, go figure, but LMGs to me aren't that useful now unless you are running Rampart).
Skill is not, obviously, just hitting your target in the head with a bullet. It is positioning, fighting the fights to win, using strategy as the circle closes, blah blah blah you know. And frankly, with sniper rifles being okay (Charge, TTake, Longbow if you have skullpiercer...) thats definitely a more positioning, more field of view gun. What you need to do, I believe, is contend with snipers which you really never had to do before. And that means really being aware of how visible you are even if you don't see bad guys.
I say these things and sometimes people are like 'I know what you're talking about! I do that!' I'm not saying you don't. But I'm saying everyone needs to do way more of it. Personally, I like the meta, with the exception being at close range energy weapons are so good you don't even use shotguns anymore. The Volt is a little OP but the 301 both has longer range and is switchable from single fire to burst. Probably, sure a volt can outgun it at short range, but it can't compete at the mid to end of r301s spectrum. Which...is the way its supposed to be. Me, I still like the 301. But now, I'd rather carry a hemlock...availability willing, of course. And I still go for a 301 every now and then. (Hemlock needed a buff and got it)
So...I don't know, I'm just trying to help. I think the meta has shifted, and it is for the better. But it sure isn't the way it used to be. I think proper adjusting is only good, and again...only the shotguns now need a buff.
And Sentinal, because you still suck Sentinal!
@KelRieverI love it how everyone talks like a scientist when it comes to discussing these things lol.
I just pick up a gun and shoot. I dont care about recoil or ttk. But for some reason this season is * boring. All my teammates leave after they get downed.Maybe its not s6 that's so boring but the overall game just is. Iv been playing sinds release and iv been lvl 500 for a looonggggg time now. Battlepass rewards suck. Quest rewards suck. And i dont even get apex packs anymore... winning a match does not reward. Killing multiple people has no reward. Even amazing teamwork had no reward. Its so monotonous.
I really hope s7 brings something bettter then the usual crap and some lvl changes.
- @KelRiever The game is definitely less skillful with the new ttk and weapons being overpowerd... The new meta is the different legends people are picking and not the same 3-4 as the past 5 seasons
- @KelRiever Also we have no say on the weapon meta just like evo armour we have to just deal with what they put in RNG loot system the game should be balanced and have QoL this season has nothing in common with the past seasons..
- @KelRiever If the health/shield isnt going to be reverted alot of players will leave for cod, All the guns and legends should be balanced so people have there own options the game creates its own meta, instead of balancing the game out and making all legends and weapons viable
@DaleWWilson95I am glad someone else gets it. Trying to follow trends of other games or mechanics is just the wrong route to go. Apex was fine how it was. Now the skill level while its still here it still gets people loads kills they never would of gotten before these changes.
Only people i could see who actually enjoy TTK changes are the ones who are finally getting kills. I have been getting kills before these changes i will still get them. But the game has become absolute bore. It just is not apex anymore. This update took the game down a road that is changing the way apex mechanics have worked and do work.
If the changes are not reverted at some point I most likely will be done with apex. I play a shooter for action pact games i do not play hunting games because its boring. With TTK you have campers hiding in corners meaning we have to hunt these kids down just to find action in this game. Its boring dull and more i could say that i wont. Thanks EA for ruining what apex was.Examples how bad it got..,..
Before the changes I could easily average 5-15 kills a game with 1500 to 3500 damage last season...
This season im winning games with only 2 kills and 800 damage..................
I am winning games with 6 kills 900 damage........
This game is now boring
how do you hunt players down when they keep getting more and more defensive characters, your offensive characters have been taken away, there is no rewards for you from killing these peoples and taking a risk while doing it just to run in d3 with two plat 4 randoms into top 10 predator team where every person has played together for months.
some good decisions like ttk has been implemented with some very bad decisions like wraith and pathfinder nerfs into one single horrible result that makes no sense in any noticeable formula.
If i try to find something positive in my experience with probably 2000 hours of gameplay
I used to load up this game and felt very stoked thinking "goddamn, i feel like hitting some wraith q's, or doing some insane grabble stuff"
now when i start the game i mostly think "oh man, all i see in character screen is boringboringboring but i dont really have other options so i guess i play bloodhound, not because i want to but because i kinda have to or maybe i just start valorant instead because i know i get bad teammates anyways"
- @KelRiever I wouldn't say LMG's aren't useful if I can win each game where I double fist a Spitfire and a Devo with the only gun I have to worry about is a Triple Take at range now while using Crypto because free evo by way of EMP is balanced and the only snipers I get shot by are only Triple takes I would say there is a balance issue for sure. I hardly get into fights where anyone isn't using a Triple take paired with a havoc with Turbo charger or a Devo spraying me down the second I move from one cover to the next. Why would anyone take the time to kit out a longbow or a charge rifle when they can pick up a triple take and be set with it for the entire match aside from maybe a mag so they are reloading less. I think the Triple Take in many ways was fine at 1.2 it was finding the damned choke that made me not want to pick one up a PK without a choke fine because it was a shotgun meaning close range TT without a choke might as well be a * PK and couldn't really do its job at sniper ranges.
Lower ttk takes less skill to play a game its just facts... why do people keep disputing the facts, it might be fun to play with lower ttk but this game has a lot of fun ways to be played without playing warzone or cs go
@Rocko_CCTV wrote:Lower ttk takes less skill to play a game its just facts... why do people keep disputing the facts, it might be fun to play with lower ttk but this game has a lot of fun ways to be played without playing warzone or cs go
I agree with you, but not on the point that low TTK may be fun. I don`t see anything fun or skillful in a fights that last less than a seconds. Guess what Dota for example will looks like if it has such low TTK?
The fun and skillful part is to outplay your opponent, to show your better than him, not just hidding somewhere and luckily kill him from behind or etc that happen so often with games with low TTK.
Also in games with low TTK, its pretty much about reaction and its the main "skill", and there is pretty much zero weight put into the dodging/evading aspect, aka the movement/strafing.
Games with high TTK, its not only reaction, and aiming skills, as well as tracking, keeping on the recoil, but also how well you can evade/dodge/move with the keyboard.
I get away from Apex, because i didn`t like the direction Devs are going, making it way more noob friendly than it has to be, as well as giving such power creep to the ability.I`m playing Quake Champions, and i can without a doubt say that i have 100% pleasure playing this game, unlike with Apex Legends, where a lot of the matches you are feeling incredible frustrated, because of pretty much so many and multiple factors, aka auto-revive b.c., game lagging, trash servers, terrible teammates, or starting handicap with - 1 or even - 2 players. As well as the huge amount of hard and soft cheaters and all kind of macro users, and annoying ability that mess with the kills, like auto-revive.
While Quake Champions is not that popular, because the whole Quake series is very hard and demanding, i have so many hours and game so far, but i did not see a single cheater yet.
There is also abilities and different champions in Quake, but the ability is helpful, but not overwhelming like its happening with Apex lately.
Lowering the TTK + bringing back Devotion pretty much the same as it was as a CP weapon, was just the nail for me.
Yeah they kinda fix the TTK, but still they make the game totally unbalance with Hemlock being stupidly easy, as well as Prowler, Devotion, Volt and Havoc with non existing recoils, and insane wide range and easy to use and hit your shots - triple take.
Also pretty much trying to force a camping meta, which is the worst thing possible.
They also don`t know what their talking and what their doing. The Devs has said that they wanna give a big advantage to a team that get knock, and kinda lower the fight time, yet they give Lifeline the most broken ability - auto revive passive with a shield and no CD, which pretty much makes the game unfair, and take the away the advantage of someone knock a guy and this also take his kill away, and on top of that stretch the fight by a lot, and making third party way worst ....
So they are talking one thing, but they are doing exactly the opposite.
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