Just played 4 to 5 matches at diamond II, and every single team have at least 2 controller players or it's a full controller team. (Almost everyone is streaming at those ranks) 70-80% of the players i searched using the names appearing on the screen are running controllers.Some are very known: Daltoosh Team, Nicewigg team, Calamiti Team, Knoqd team, Soar Team, Snip3down team, Resultah Team, Xedmin Team, The Kine Team, etc, Less known teams and streamers also running full controller teams also at master and predator levels.Why Respawn let aim assist being this powerful?https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/haf32f/when_they_tell_you_aim_assist_isnt_that_strong_on/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=shareI'm on PC but with so many controllers on higher ranks, feels more like Console with higher FPSIs so stressful to play against controllers; must of them have bad movement, bad plays, and still one clip you only because aim assist do 40% of the Aiming according to Ilootgames.Aim assist needs to be removed on Ranked PC and Tourneys or at least tuned down way too hard. Controller is bad for FPS, bad movement, bad accuracy and even with that Higher Ranks are being dominated by controllers, just because aim assist is a thing.And this is not just me, So many PRO players have complained a lot about aim assist, but Respawn have do nothing.

@audiofilomx 50% are controller players other 50% use Logitech G-Hub/Razer Synapse 3 macro with almost 0 recoil. Have you ever been impressed by how all professional apex streamers have almost 0 recoil without having any attachments ? They land, take the first weapon with no attachments and have 0 recoil 🙂

@TBTFW wrote:@audiofilomx50% are controller players other 50% use Logitech G-Hub/Razer Synapse 3 macro with almost 0 recoil. Have you ever been impressed by how all professional apex streamers have almost 0 recoil without having any attachments ? They land, take the first weapon with no attachments and have 0 recoil 🙂You, sir, are 100% correct. I applaud you for speaking out loud about this as usually people are trying to be silent about it as much as possible. Yes, most streamers and pro players are abusing the game using macros for crouch spamming, no recoil and God knows what else. This is not something new. I played CS professionally in my country and in the past, years ago, I also used macros via the console to maximize my performance and give myself a lot of advantage over the others.I have very good friends who know streamers and other pros and they can say the same as they have heard and were even being offered macros/cheats/abuses from those same players which I won't name here.People what you see in streams and tournaments is not real. Those are not the real game physics and the soon you realize it the better. When there is money involved people will always try to cheat - same as real life sports with doping and stuff.

You're 100% right with this op. I started playing Apex Legends PC in MAR 2019 with a controller. I noticed right away that many already used it on the system and I would ask for their settings as some of them already had 5k kills +.I can tell anyone, Apex Legends with a controller on PC with high FPS, is super easy. I can say that after 6 months of learning mouse and keyboard. WIth controllers you don't need to try and aim, the device does most of it for you. All you need to do is plan your looting corrently as it's one major issue with controllers.Also, don't forget there is players using controllers power of aim assist while using the generic mouse & keybaord devices like Cronusmax. I would see some high level players using them on PC. Just a fake mouse & keyboard, but has aim assist.In my eyes, Aim assist shouldn't work on mouse & keyboard users at all. It also shoudln't work on players who have it disabled in the settings. Also, I directly noticed the extra aim assist, I even asked in a topic this week if aim assist was stronger on consoles lol You'll get killed quick as hell on consoles.Like Ilootgames saiid in that last tweet, It would be funny if PC controller users move to consoles just to play crossplay for the extra aim assist. PC getting crossplay is like adding millions of extra aimbots haha.

@audiofilomx The player you mentioned - there was even a video of him starting a game, he lands and when he starts shooting he realizes that he didn't start the Logitech G-Hub and there was a brutal recoil and of course: ALT+TAB, starts G-hub and boom no more recoil 🙂Even another famous pubg streamer - which recently returned to Twitch, he was caught how he starts shooting in apex and sees what huge recoil he has and realizes that this is his PUBG g-hub settings :D :D

@Monacoian Yeah, some of the "pro" players have macros, like you said they have 0 recoil with any weapon, one of the players that i convinced that have macros is Diegosaurs, he had 0 recoil with the nerfed havoc, that recoil was nasty and he still can beam people at 300m with no recoil at all, but that's not the discussion here, Use Macros on M/K still cheating, and some of the controller players use their Cronusmax or strikepack to have 0 recoil also, that combinated with strong aimassist is just cancer for legit m/K players with no Macros or any unfair enhancement.

(PC) 70-80% Diamond-Master are controller players

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Anonymous
5 years ago
You're 100% right with this op. I started playing Apex Legends PC in MAR 2019 with a controller. I noticed right away that many already used it on the system and I would ask for their settings as some of them already had 5k kills +.

I can tell anyone, Apex Legends with a controller on PC with high FPS, is super easy. I can say that after 6 months of learning mouse and keyboard. WIth controllers you don't need to try and aim, the device does most of it for you. All you need to do is plan your looting corrently as it's one major issue with controllers.

Also, don't forget there is players using controllers power of aim assist while using the generic mouse & keybaord devices like Cronusmax. I would see some high level players using them on PC. Just a fake mouse & keyboard, but has aim assist.

In my eyes, Aim assist shouldn't work on mouse & keyboard users at all. It also shoudln't work on players who have it disabled in the settings. Also, I directly noticed the extra aim assist, I even asked in a topic this week if aim assist was stronger on consoles lol You'll get killed quick as hell on consoles.

Like Ilootgames saiid in that last tweet, It would be funny if PC controller users move to consoles just to play crossplay for the extra aim assist. PC getting crossplay is like adding millions of extra aimbots haha.
TBTFW
5 years ago
@audiofilomx 50% are controller players other 50% use Logitech G-Hub/Razer Synapse 3 macro with almost 0 recoil. Have you ever been impressed by how all professional apex streamers have almost 0 recoil without having any attachments ? They land, take the first weapon with no attachments and have 0 recoil 🙂
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@Monacoian Yeah, some of the "pro" players have macros, like you said they have 0 recoil with any weapon, one of the players that i convinced that have macros is Diegosaurs, he had 0 recoil with the nerfed havoc, that recoil was nasty and he still can beam people at 300m with no recoil at all, but that's not the discussion here, Use Macros on M/K still cheating, and some of the controller players use their Cronusmax or strikepack to have 0 recoil also, that combinated with strong aimassist is just cancer for legit m/K players with no Macros or any unfair enhancement.
TBTFW
5 years ago
@audiofilomx The player you mentioned - there was even a video of him starting a game, he lands and when he starts shooting he realizes that he didn't start the Logitech G-Hub and there was a brutal recoil and of course: ALT+TAB, starts G-hub and boom no more recoil 🙂
Even another famous pubg streamer - which recently returned to Twitch, he was caught how he starts shooting in apex and sees what huge recoil he has and realizes that this is his PUBG g-hub settings :D :D
EThought113213
5 years ago
If they ever implement crossplay between console and PC, I think most PC players will just quit playing. Probably would see most pros quit as well.
I've used controller far longer than M+K and controller is just brokenly unfair. Annoying AF when controller players are just the absolute worst at everything, movement, game sense, reactions, everything. The moment their sight touches the enemy though it's just an aimbot. The game literally plays itself for them.
TBTFW
5 years ago
@EThought113213 I am convinced that there will be an option - whether to play with everyone (pc,xbox,ps4... etc) or only with PC players.
MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@audiofilomx What iLootGames doesn't tell you is that respawn have been testing/modifying aim assist on console between season 1 - 3 (from what I recall), how do I know this? Because some games you couldn't aim to save your life, the game didn't feel fluid, it wasn't smooth.
I have played on both PC and PS4. What I can tell you is that aim assist has to be stronger on console due to the limitations of the console. Using a controller on PC told me that it was not as smooth as using it on controller, not because of aim assist but because it just felt "weird" i.e not smooth, didn't feel right etc.
Is so stressful to play against controllers; must of them have bad movement, bad plays, and still one clip you only because aim assist do 40% of the Aiming according to Ilootgames.
So if they are as bad as you say they are, what's the issue with you not beaming them first? Perhaps they are just better? That should be something to consider my friend.
Aim assist needs to be removed on Ranked PC and Tourneys or at least tuned down way too hard
The issue you are not seeing here is that, say that this is a thing now, controller players would have to get used to two different games completely, one with aim assist and one with a lack of aim assist, it just wouldn't feel right and would give controller players a heavy disadvantage no matter how you look at it.
At the end of the day this will always be an issue because you can't please everybody. I personally do not think that aim assist should be touched or modified.
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming No controller player is better than a m/k for the simple reason that controllers have aim assist, weak or strong they're having help to aim that m/k doesn't have, have you ever played on mouse at higher ranks? Sure you can beam controllers players but only if you got them from behind, once aim assist is on you, they will never miss a shot even if you strafe so hard, i use to be predator season 2 and 3 and master season 4, i can deal with other m/k predators, they can miss if your strafing is good, but controller players don't, even the bad ones, i tried controller too, you can feel the aim assist pulling your aim so hard, the video on reddit is mine, you can't imagine have 1700 hours of m/k on apex, reach the higher ranks for 3 seasons and then see how controller players are switching pc and dominating with bad movement, bad strategies, but godlike aim, but don't believe me, ask imperialhal, Albralelie, liquid, Sentinels, etc, all of them complained so hard on aim assist, and agree that should be nerfed so hard.
MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@audiofilomx

I have not played m&k at higher ranks due to playing on PS4 mostly.

I do believe what you are saying but the issue is that if aim assist is adjusted apex wouldn't feel like apex anymore to controller players. As others have suggested on the forum, aim assist works best at close range.

Controller on apex via PC is not ported very well if you didn't know. Due to this I believe if it was adjusted it would make it very difficult for controller players on PC to keep up. Regardless of the outcome of this discussion; pc/controller players will always try to suggest the other is broken.
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming Even Snip3down one of the Best controller players on PC, said that aim assist on PC is too strong and he wouldn't mind if they tuned down.

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