Im tired of constantly being hounded about aim assist, PC players will win against anyways, they just want to constantly win its dumb ridiculous and frustrating because guess what you have better hardware, I shouldn't have to argue about why PC is superior, PC will always win a gun fight stop complaining and in the words of Revenant "Shut it Skinsuit!"

I play with both controller and mouse on PC.The whole argument and discussion around that controller players with Target Compensation outplays MK and that it should be removed or crossplay removed seems fake to me.It seems to come from players that struggle with the game and get outplayed a lot. I won't be surprised if they even transfer their frustration of being outplayed by MK players onto controller players and have controller players as their "punching bag" to release game-frustration onto. Instead of blaming themselves, it's much more comfortable to their ego to blame another group of players and the differences in control mechanics attached to that.What's interesting and a point that should be made is that whenever a console player wants to be able to use mouse+keyboard on their console there is uproar because this is considered OP.I play with both controller and mouse+keyboard and mouse is superior at range and there is no way controller is able to control the recoil and track the way a mouse does.Especially with high recoil weapons, like the Havoc, the mouse is superior to a controller when controlling recoil and tracking. And on top of that you can have the insane levels of mouse sensitivity that generally makes your gameplay much faster than a controller. Respawn don't seem to want to increase the max sensitivity on controllers though.Horizontal recoil especially is generally almost gone with a mouse, but with a controller it drifts easily. This is because a mouse is placed steadily on a table while a stick is constantly in movement and has acceleration to it as well. The first thing you do when playing with a mouse is turning off acceleration.At mid-range to longer range there is a huge difference in accuracy and I am able to laser down players, but with a controller I don't have that level of stability and tracking control and miss much more. At close range Target Compensation can also ruin it for me because the slowdown is too slow, maxing out stick movement and missing.

@TuxTart116 At first, I disliked any console user, then I got to realizing its not EVERY console user, its those who use strike packs and xim that I dislike because they're the ones who take the aim assist and turn it into an aimbot.

@TuxTart116 I've played with friends on pc and ya PC players seem way better. The movement is crazy fast.

The forced cross play is the reason why Apex Legends started to become more and more frustrating for me. I already have to deal with absolute professionals who don't miss a single shot. I don't need the average player to do the same. Every match I play nowadays only has the purpose to progress the battle pass, collecting treasure packs and completing challenges for ongoing LTM's. The enjoyment of playing has ever since started to move more and more into the background.I am still an average player. Not a professional. Treat me like one. And don't put me together with people who clearly have aim assist or a much higher skill than me.

@TuxTart116 I get your point, but now with the Xbox series X and the PS5, the majority of PC players are even with console players, not everyone have the super-high end PC running at 240fps, most PC players have between low and mid-range PC'S, (some of them barely reaching the 60fps) so all the hardware "advantages" don't exist there, so i understand people complaining about aim assist.In addition to that: M/K is hard to master, some people quit and use a controller instead, because it's not that easy, aim assist makes the game easier, so it's frustrating for M/K players that are struggling learning to aim being obliterated by controller players with insane aim only because they have aim assist.This is how aim assist workshttps://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/haf32f/when_they_tell_you_aim_assist_isnt_that_strong_on/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=shareThis is my experience everyday against controller players (How i know his on controller? He was Playing with two console players, and he was looting a box without moving while being attacked by third party)Im a Really good player, played since pre-season.

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audiofilomx
5 years ago
@TuxTart116 I get your point, but now with the Xbox series X and the PS5, the majority of PC players are even with console players, not everyone have the super-high end PC running at 240fps, most PC players have between low and mid-range PC'S, (some of them barely reaching the 60fps) so all the hardware "advantages" don't exist there, so i understand people complaining about aim assist.
In addition to that: M/K is hard to master, some people quit and use a controller instead, because it's not that easy, aim assist makes the game easier, so it's frustrating for M/K players that are struggling learning to aim being obliterated by controller players with insane aim only because they have aim assist.
This is how aim assist works
https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/haf32f/when_they_tell_you_aim_assist_isnt_that_strong_on/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is my experience everyday against controller players
(How i know his on controller? He was Playing with two console players, and he was looting a box without moving while being attacked by third party)
Im a Really good player, played since pre-season.
TheApexLegendNu
5 years ago
@audiofilomxI play with a controller on pc but I don’t have a high fps I rarely get above 50 fps its usually like 40-50 sometimes lower or slightly higher and I feel like its mainly broken at higher frame rates but idk because there is one game I snap to everyone like aimbot then the next 30 games im average or trash so I don’t really think its aim assist I just think apex has it rigged or something to keep players engaged
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@TheApexLegendNub Yeah that's what i saying, not everyone have the ultra high-end PC, i used to play with controller, and aim assist feels stronger at higher fps, dont know why, its just my own experience.
Midnight9746
Hero+
5 years ago
@TuxTart116 At first, I disliked any console user, then I got to realizing its not EVERY console user, its those who use strike packs and xim that I dislike because they're the ones who take the aim assist and turn it into an aimbot.
Ironflower196
5 years ago
@TuxTart116 I've played with friends on pc and ya PC players seem way better. The movement is crazy fast.
Ironflower196
5 years ago
@Midnight9746 Pretty sure that's what it is cause when I have played against pc their movement is so fast it messes up my aim assist.
Nightstick24
5 years ago
@TuxTart116 I don't think controller players should be hounded about it personally, but I do think Apex might need to take a look at the Aim Assist.

I didn't use to think anything of it, I've heard people complaining for a long time but I've never tried controller before. I got a controller a few months back though for another game and decided to try it out on Apex. The moving and looting and aiming feels super, super weird as someone who barely ever plays with a controller at all ever - but man is it ever easy to track once you get your crosshair on them - as long as you aim a little in their general direction it's enough to lock on almost.

I was amazed at how much I noticed the aim assist. I'm still not part of the delete aim assist gang because even with aim assist I still got wrecked a lot because there's only so fast you can turn with a decent sensitivity and there's a bunch of other disadvantages of using a controller compared to a PC - primarily in movement for me. But I don't think it's unreasonable for Respawn to look at changing the Aim Assist a little maybe, because from my first game on with the controller I saw a noticeable 30% - 50% boost in my damage and kills - as an incredibly mediocre player on a good day.
BrokenCompile
5 years ago
I played whole my life with M&K and very little with controller. I consider myself very bad when it comes to aiming. I do however dare anyone to win me in training room while I use M&K and he/she uses controller.
Midnight9746
Hero+
5 years ago
@BrokenCompile I kinda wanna use a controller against you now. Lol
BrokenCompile
5 years ago
Sure, send me a friend request: WishFish
I'm not a good player, my K/D is 0.4. I'd be more then happy to be proven wrong but I can't believe that controller can compare to m+k.