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sashazyryanov
Seasoned Adventurer
11 hours ago

Peace of mind for legitimate players regarding anticheat efforts

Hello. In yesterday’s report I saw that in Season 28 you’ve banned 139697 accounts, and seeing such a high number makes me worry. Let me explain why.

Aside from encountering a few players that were under Olympus map and a few players that were invisible due to short-lived Revenant’s finisher’s bug I’ve never seen any cheaters in my ~5000 hours playtime from season 8 till now. Granted, I play on console where cheating options are severely limited, but once in a while I team up with PC friends, and I can’t say I notice any difference in terms of match fairness. I fully understand that cheating situation is not uniform and my personal experience is not indicative of what everyone else is experiencing, but I can’t help but feel that there shouldn't be that many cheaters in the game and some of those bans can be false positives.

I also had in-game friend who was accusing another team of cheating every second time we were dying in a match (this is not exaggeration; he was that certain that only cheaters can beat him). I imagine he wasn’t unique in such attitude and there are quite a few players who are abusing reporting system. And I remember the story of AMD's Anti-Lag+ triggering anti-cheats in various games, so I can easily see legitimate players routinely updating their drivers and software only to get detection-triggering enhancements they aren’t even aware of.

I understand that you can’t disclose how exactly you are detecting cheaters as such secrecy is important for efficiency of the process. But this secrecy doesn’t give peace of mind to legitimate players, and I want something to be done about that. Personally, I would feel much better if I knew that before getting a ban, I would get a warning (or at least a short-lived ban instead of a permanent ban) with some information on what to do to avoid escalation.

Others may disagree, but I would rather have more cheaters in my games or having them for longer than having honest players kicked out and worrying that I may join them one day by mistake.

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  • For me, there's only one difference: avoid the EU server like the plague.

    Wildcard:

    My games today on EU with 30-40 ping:

    My games today on NA East with 120-130 ping:

    Am I just **bleep** and don't understand something, or is there a problem? It's like that every season. Of course, there are cheaters in NA too, but I feel like they're much less common, and people there, despite AA, can still make mistakes and miss their targets.

    On EU, I feel like everyone sees me through walls, and I almost always die in one clip. NA East is also a highly skilled server, so don't tell me that's the difference...

    On EU, even if I get a multi-pred to the team (it was a big surprise for me XD), like today (I had someone with three pred badges on the banner), he didn't even know what was happening in the game - he was dying all the time.

    I don't understand what's going on with this game at all.

    Regarding your post, I'll also add that I haven't encountered a cheater in ranked games, but I didn't play very long – I got to D2 and gave up because solo q was terrible.

    But... Wildcard is a different story. Bro, the game is completely different there, and either I'm doing something wrong or I completely don't understand how half the lobby can kill you with a single clip at different ranges in every situation.

    Perhaps most bans are from EU and Asian servers? I don't know, and I don't know if we'll ever find out. It would be helpful to know which region of the world has the most banned accounts. Personally, I'm betting that the EU and Asia reign supreme in this regard. I'd be shocked if it weren't so. But let's be honest... It's been known for a while that Russia and China are among the leaders in cheating in FPS games.

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    sashazyryanov
    Seasoned Adventurer
    7 hours ago

    I'm from EU and I’m playing on EU servers. I feel like the community is really nice and friendly in this region, sorry to hear you’re having a different experience.

  • vVv_Bjoergen_vVv's avatar
    vVv_Bjoergen_vVv
    Seasoned Ace
    7 hours ago

    Just because someone is nice and friendly doesn't explain the cheating problem. I'm glad you're among the people who have had positive experiences with this server. I believe (and I know quite a few who share my opinion) that this server has a huge problem in this regard (it's not about whether someone is nice or not).

    Besides, as you said, you mainly play on console, so that might also influence your opinion. I only play on PC, and only in that narrow, sweaty skill distribution.

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    sashazyryanov
    Seasoned Adventurer
    6 hours ago

    Acknowledged.

    I would like to bring this conversation back to the original topic though. When you see people saying that they were incorrectly banned (some claims may be disingenuous, but likely not all of them) and when you see six-figures number of locked accounts it’s hard to stay not even slightly concerned about the safety of your gaming investments. So, something that would put honest players’ minds at ease would be very much appreciated.

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