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N19htf0x's avatar
4 years ago

Please fix the rank system

The ranking system in Apex is broken.
There are several problems with it which I will outline here, please understand I want the game to improve and hear me out.

1. Dropping a tier and a half every split is unhealthy for the game.

 - Why is this bad?
    This is bad because when masters and pred players take a single season off of ranked, they end up in Silver lobbies. After just one season off, they're now in lobbies far lower than they should be ruining the experience for players who actually belong there. I'm in Gold right now working my way back to plat so that I can hopefully grind for diamond this season and this is what I queue into:

How can we fix it?

    First of all, we want to remove this demotion, with no demotion at all, this problem is solved, however we introduce a new problem. When someone who hasn't played for a while and is quite rusty comes back, they'll have to play in lobbies that are too difficult for them. Normally this wouldn't be a problem since they would just have a couple bad games and fall back into the lobbies where they belong, but with Apex there is a tier demotion protection which prevents that. Without this protection, the rusty player will fall back into lobbies they can handle until they improve back to the skill level they once where. This is the next point.

2. Tier demotion protection is also unhealthy
Why is it bad?
    When a player finally hits that new tier where they've just advanced into harder lobbies, they often find themselves hard stuck in the bottom of that tier. They can't gain rp because their skill level hasn't quite made it there yet, but they also can't lose rp because of the demotion protection. So they start playing ranked like its pubs. pushing teams when it isn't in either team's best interest, throwing the game for both their team and the other. This is because rp is no longer valuable to them. By removing tier demotion protection, we can make rp valuable even at the bottom of a tier.

What can we do to fix it?

    Remove tier demotion protection.

3. The RP system is broken

What is wrong with it?

    The RP rewards of kills and placement incentivizes the wrong play styles for a healthy game. Placement incentivizes sitting around in a building all game waiting for the ring to close, and kp incentivizes third parties. Furthermore the balance between the two is far too heavily weighted to the kp side of it. Just in a recent ranked game I played with my friend, we got 2nd place and he had 0 kp. That does not mean however he didn't do anything. He was extremely valuable to our team in other ways but he only received 30rp. I think his performance in this and many other situations was worth more than 30rp.

How can we fix it?

    This one is a little bit more tricky. Apex is not a zero sum game and therefor an elo system is not a trivial problem. First, having a team based kp system will be a step in the right direction. Furthermore I think extra points for other positive actions will be extremely helpful (for example reviving or resurrecting a teammate, scanning the survey beacon, etc... ). There are more actions that would be nice to offer points for like portalling/padding/relaunching your team out of danger, opening a clutch black market when your team is low on supplies, pulling off a clutch 1v3 etc but these are a lot harder to implement. 

Overall, Apex is a great game and I really want to see it succeed, but the ranked system right now is incredibly unhealthy and needs to be addressed.

Thank you for reading until the end and have a wonderful day.

5 Replies

  • ZzSapper's avatar
    ZzSapper
    New Adventurer
    4 years ago

    I agree that the point system as well as the matchmaking system could use a big/complete overhaul! And it would also be nice to actually have no pre made/3 stack ranked lobby's so it is more fair for a solo player! But Respawn don't seem willing to add this!? Personally the way ranked and SBMM/matchmaking currently works in general, actually makes me wanna play apex less & less when ever I'm solo( which is often) I rarely ever play apex unless I'm with friends.

  • @N19htf0x Only problem that I see is that you get ranked rewards for reaching ranks each season, things like skydive trails, badges, gun charms, etc. not going down a rank, even if its just one teir (like Plat IV to Gold I), would kinda make getting these items a problem as you just get it for free each season for being the same rank, or you have to climb higher which might not be easy for most people.

    Players would still smurph to be in lower lobbies though.
  • N19htf0x's avatar
    N19htf0x
    4 years ago

    True that would be a problem. Perhaps a small decay over time could be helpful, or you have to play enough ranked games each split to prove you can still maintain the rank? But the tier and a half decay is way too much.

  • @N19htf0x

    This was a pleasure to read. Issues and possible solutions. Thanks mate.

    I say it would be better only to gain points. Not lose them. Could there be a league table? Like in soccer for example.
    Ranking would be based on your points in that table. You would be facing teams/people who are having roughly same amount of points?

    Perhaps it would change players whole attitude towards ranked play since you cant lose points but just gain them. When you have earned someting you want to keep em..right? =)

    And I would like to see that in ranked circle would not close entirely. It would be better to set final stage to zone4 or zone5 size. Then the ring could start slowly rotating or moving so that remaining players would have to move along with the ring.
    This way we could see something else in the end than massive fireworks when all the ultimates are going down and people whacking with shotguns and hope for the best.

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