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- 4 years ago
First of all, are you seriously going to try to tell me that caustic players play outside of zone so much that having his traps go away outside of zone would drop his pickrate to zero? When you're outside of zone, your priority should be getting back into zone, not bunkering up a building with gas traps. His traps also aren't even remotely critical to fighting outside of zone. Caustic's ability doesn't make sense outside of zone, but also tend to be a certain death sentence to anyone who gets hit by one in anything above round 1 (and its not easy to deal with in round 1).
Also you say no other legends' abilities disappear in the ring? This is just flat out wrong. Lifeline's drone disappears, I'm pretty sure Wattson's gen disappears, Revenant's totem disappears. If healing abilities aren't allowed outside of zone why should damaging abilities where someone just laid a trap and forgot about it and ended up griefing a team? The only reason wraith's portal disappears outside of zone is because of the exploit where wraith teams would create long portals during last ring closing to survive longer. That was the only part of her ult related to the ring that was "overpowered" and without the ability to portal her teammates back into zone or portal to loot boxes etc, she took a pretty big nerf on that one. Wraith's portal is actually useful outside of ring for, you guessed it, getting back into zone.
Furthermore, I was not playing wraith, but I can clearly tell that you've never touched her in your life. Because the voice from the void only works when you're about to activate the trap anyway and have no time to react. If you activate a caustic trap outside of zone, you're now in a cloud of gas which you have to get out of. Sure you take 10 damage... every second. You're also slowed while the ring is biting 5 damage every second as well. Also you say traps are pretty easy to see. But the zone severely inhibits vision and caustics like to pop those things behind walls. So once again, no. The traps were not easy to see.
"so you come to EA help to share why you thing an all ready bad legend should be nerfed down a hole just because you died to him" - I don't know why you're acting like I'm some crybaby asking for a nerf. Caustic traps outside of zone offer him very little utility. I've already presented several reasons why the traps outside of zone offer no out for the person running into them, while the caustic did essentially nothing and just got lucky.
"If you had that little health in you" - I was actually almost full health. You're drastically underestimating the combination of ring damage, gas damage, and stun (so you can't get away from the gas damage)- BigMacAttack8u4 years agoSeasoned Ace@N19htf0x This is full of lies that I would like to point out. For one “Lifeline's drone disappears, I'm pretty sure Wattson's gen disappears, Revenant's totem disappears.” lifelines drone has a shortened time, it is not obsolete. Wattson and revenant have no changes, I don’t know where you got that false information. Your suggestion would make it so Caustic couldn’t place traps in the ring which is an insane idea, it would throw his pick rate and the balance of his abilities down to basically nothing (which they already are). I have played games of wraith, because my friends kept saying how fantastic she was, but I never liked her personality, so I don’t play her much (same with mad Maggie). As for this: “Sure you take 10 damage... every second. You're also slowed while the ring is biting 5 damage every second as well. Also you say traps are pretty easy to see. But the zone severely inhibits vision and caustics like to pop those things behind walls.”
It only does 5 damage a second for two seconds, two seconds is plenty of time to get from one end of the gas to another, I know this because I have done it, and enemies have done it to me. This is not an irregular occurrence that it only takes two seconds, it happens almost every time unless the enemy player doesn’t know how to run. The ring should have no slowing effect, the fact that you say it does, makes me wonder if you actually play. As for the placing it behind walls/ around corners, that is just smart placement. You can’t complain when a player is smart, unless the difference is drastic, in which case you should complain about matchmaking. “I don't know why you're acting like I'm some crybaby asking for a nerf. Caustic traps outside of zone offer him very little utility.” as for this, as you asked me, have you ever played this character? His traps are essential for locking down locations, blocking doors, or stoping am enemy advance. These qualities are essential when in the ring, if you can’t prevent steam from pushing you while you heal from the ring, then you die. These traps are also good for the exact thing you are complaining about, stoping an enemy from getting out of the ring. This is how caustics play, they throw gas at you mercilessly, you can’t expect someone not to be waiting around a corner. If you expect free passage out of the ring, you send yourself to a doom you made. Also as you pointed out yourself they do offer caustic ring help, you got damaged and slowed, so that offered him time to escape, if he didn’t have the ability to even place traps in the ring it would be detrimental to him. I welcome you to actually propose a valuable idea that is not just I died so pls nerf an all read horrible legend. If you really fell so strongly about this, we can have this convo over email, you can message me through this website by clicking on my name in the blue: @BigMacAttack8u if you want any more apex legends conspiracy theories debunked you can contact me there as well. I would fact check your info before you go spouting that things are unfair. Happy gaming!- 4 years ago
First, I never said the ring damage slows you. Its the caustic gas that slows you. Or have you never played as anyone other than caustic who is immune to it in the first place?
I'm not complaining "Just because I died to it". I have valid points here that you seem to just be handwaving away.
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