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br8kDown's avatar
br8kDown
7 years ago

Potatoes, Bots, Pro's... Oh my!

I can admit it. I'm a half baked potato at this game. I truly do stink in so many ways. I know I'm getting a bit better though, it's just a tough grind of practice when you're this bad.

At the same time I fight against people who are just as bad, or nearly as bad as me all the time (which is how I can tell when I'm getting better). Still the vast majority of the time I'll get a few good fights and then I'll run into the squad that kills me with perfect precision, aim, skill... whatever! Sometimes it feels as if I'm facing Aculite in every game. There just seem to be so many people with super-good aim, not so much movement or tactics but freaking just can't miss a shot between their legs backwards.

The dilemma for me at that point is are they cheating or are they pros? It can be hard to tell. Usually if I spectator them I can tell if they have great skills beyond just aim. Which brings me to the point that the darn spectator doesn't allow you to switch view on the team that killed you and you don't always get to spectate the person who killed you. How can you report the guy if you can't switch to him and watch him? Oh yes I know I can take note of his name and put it in a form on the internet... how convenient (trigger the auto generated anti cheat instructional reply here).

That is a digression though. My point I believe is this game can push me to my limit of "want to keep practicing" because there's just so little balance for a non-pro PC playing in a world full of cheating beastherds. I wonder if there isn't some value in assigning (perhaps hidden) a handicap to players and trying to sort them onto servers based on some level of skill competency. I'm sure that's a horrible idea etc etc but honestly I'm tired of playing with cheaters.

I think a handicap/match system done right would help you find cheaters more easily by isolating them into a smaller group where statistical anomalies will show more readily and you will help potatoes progress in a less frustrating and perhaps more valuable fashion. Win/Win... Or not it's the Internet, can't please everyone.

Let the pro's and the cheaters duke it out and let the Devs sort em out 🙂

Cheers

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  • warslag's avatar
    warslag
    7 years ago

    @br8kDownI enjoyed reading your post!

    Regarding cheats, I've been a proper rage-a-holic over cheating down the years, but I have to say it didn't achieve anything. The only way to get back at them is to be a good honest player yourself and to not let them get to you. Don't spend your time worrying about whether players are cheating or not as, ultimately, that's not what we're here for. Just report them using the in game report feature or along with any evidence you have to EAC using the link. Cheating is unfortunately a fact of PC gaming and can have a significant impact on our enjoyment. But EAC has done a fantastic job in Apex.

    So don't worry if someone is a cheat or a pro. Just shrug it off, report them if you think they were suspicious, but the key thing is not to dwell on it.

    In gaming, you dont have to be able to distinguish a cheat from a pro or whatever as there is someone employed to do that for you. All you have to do is report anything suspicious and EAC will use those reports as research to catch more cheats.

    I don't really like rank systems after seeing how terrible it is in Rainbow Six: Siege. Especially for low ranked players who are constantly subjected to 'smurfing' and cheating. Just my point of view though.

  • OneEyeYarric's avatar
    OneEyeYarric
    7 years ago

    Why so negative.

    I can rebuild you, make you faster, stronger, better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGO57y4td-c

    I´ll pm you a link and what you should train on the website.

    Once you get started its very fun.

    I got it from my grandson and I think if a 50y old guy like me can get better in 2 weeks, you will too.

    Try to train with the raw mouse input and never mess with the sensitivity options.

    But you can try it if you must since an Apex setting for training is included.

  • warslag's avatar
    warslag
    7 years ago
    @OneEyeYarric wrote:

    Why so negative.

    I can rebuild you, make you faster, stronger, better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGO57y4td-c

    I´ll pm you a link and what you should train on the website.

    Once you get started its very fun.

    I got it from my grandson and I think if a 50y old guy like me can get better in 2 weeks, you will too.

    Try to train with the raw mouse input and never mess with the sensitivity options.

    But you can try it if you must since an Apex setting for training is included.

    But if you use a 3rd party "trainer" which uses Apex-style settings, then what is the difference between that and just playing Apex which is surely more enjoyable?

    No offence but seems like a pretentious waste of time, to me. 🤔 No that gaming isn't already a waste of time but actually practising to be good at wasting your time seems like an even worse waste of time lol. 😛

  • OneEyeYarric's avatar
    OneEyeYarric
    7 years ago
    The difference is one is a professional FPS trainer.
    No one-shots you.
    You have time to try different mouse settings.
    Also, it has the overall best training/warm-up games I have seen in 40 years.
    The in-game training area in Apex just can't compete on so many levels.


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