10 months ago
Rampant Hackers
Hey I am hoping that this game will not die and was hoping that you (The Devs) will find a way to get rid of the absurd amount of hackers crawling in every lobby of Apex. Some ideas: ban people who...
There is a easier way.
Every cheat programme has a process name. Apex launcher just need to scan all processes/file names and then ban hacker.
Even Counter Strike 1.6 player did such a tool
@QbikkeWell yes and no.
Cheaters are starting to run a two PC set up, where one PC runs the game, while the other runs the cheats. When the anti-cheat scans the PC running the game, it won't find the cheats as the cheats are being ran on the other PC that the anti-cheat doesn't have access to. This is most likely how there are cheaters in Valorant, (the game with the most invasive kernal level anti-cheat that runs the moment that the PC starts up).
I'm not sure which PC they would play on, but I'm guessing it would be the one running the cheats as sending a wall hack overlay to the main one might get flagged.
Either way, imagine using two PCs just to cheat. I know cheaters are bad at the game because whenever I see one turn off the cheats, they can't hit the broad side of a barn, (even at point blank).
This just takes being bad at the game to another level, (especially when I've heard that most cheats are a monthly subscription). If I had money for a monthly subscription, I would be paying for something that's actually worth it, (like a Crunchyroll subscription to watch anime).
These cheaters mainly cheat because its "fun" and they "like to make people upset", and that's honestly sad. Its more fun to make people upset that they lost when you're actually good at the game. Outplaying others beats cheating them out of a fight. Others cheat because they make money. One dude admitted to earning 5k+ a month, (which is why the ideas of making rank be a buy in, having us own the battle pass, or requiring us to buy a cosmetic item isn't going to work).
To stop the cheaters, it would take more than EA/Respawn getting a better anti-cheat. It would require Microsoft, Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, etc. to provide updates and patches.
What I mean is that Playstation and Xbox already banned the Chronus Zen through a firmware update, so we would just need the same to be done for strikepacks, (even though Xbox sells those), XIM, etc. as well as making it harder to use cheats in video games. However, it would be a bit harder to do that on PCs, as cheaters most likely have a fully modded PC.
We would also need to find another way to ban cheaters in a way they can't bypass the ban, (as for the dual PC cheating problem, the anti-cheat would have to be able to detect when a plugged in device is actually a PC). Cheaters currently are spoofing the connection between their two PCs to where the anti-cheat thinks its a mouse or something similar. This might also be how cheaters are now cheating with aimbot, wall hacks, etc. in console lobbies, (they just cheat using a PC). That would also have to get blocked by PC/Console companies.
The most used banning methods, and how cheaters are getting around it:
1) Account Ban - They make a new account
2) IP Ban - They use a VPN
3) HWID Ban, (Hardware ID) Ban - They spoof their HWIDs
If the game account requires a phone number, cheaters would just spoof those as well.
Some people think games should require players to have one account linked to an identity, where you show your country's ID, etc. While that could work, it would mean giving these companies more personal information, (assuming you ever bought something from them), and its not like people don't just make fake IDs or have ways around making a new identity. It would also stop players who are underage and those who don't own an ID from being able to play the game.
One thing for sure, EAC, (Easy Anti-Cheat) doesn't work and most of the time cheaters can either turn it off completely or fly under the radar, even with just one PC with it left on. We would need a much better anti-cheat than EAC. (Not to mention that games with EAC seems to have the most cheaters as well).
Overall, cheating will always be a problem. Its no surprise by now that its an arms race between the cheaters and the anti-cheat devs. I just don't understand why cheaters cheat when they could be doing other things. Like, those who can code and program could go on to do something better, (like cyber security), and make more money doing so. Instead they're wasting everyone's time, (including their own), aimbotting other players.