Rampart Feedback
So the problem with rampart is that she is here to encourage camping, and by vamping I mean that she can just stay at one place camping forever and putting walls. For exemple you van take the high gr...
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Plz Fix armor health previous version and revise down Rampart
I did not like season 6 cuz of lots of Rampart bridge-campers. Rampart ability + wattson ult is * strong. They shoot players, who wear armor became FRAGILE with AMPED COVER.
EA MUST fix them ASAP. If not, so many users will not play Apex Legends. They will play other games. Maybe I will, too.
EA_Kent
Community Manager
Community ManagerHi everyone,
There were several threads going about Rampart over the past couple days, so I merged them together here. That will make it easier for us to keep track of the feedback.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
/Kent
Shes in a weird spot right now.
If you get surprised, you have no opportunity to really setup as walls are destroyed immediately and sheila doesn't really help in an ambush.
If you fully setup, you can do some crazy powerful damage and hold down a location incredibly powerfully, wiping the floor with competition as long as you don't get naded or bombarded by an ult into next week.
The only change I can immediately think of, and I am unsure if this would even be a good change, is to have her tactical come in two halves.
1) The wall 2) The amp
Basically if the wall is shot while its setting up, its destroyed. After wall finishes its setup tho, its got its full 400 health. But then the amped shield part can still be shot at while its setting its own part to prevent that damage boost and area control. Essentially, if the enemy immediately caps ur wall its down, but if they don't cap the wall part before its done, at LEAST you have cover.
Her ultimate is powerful, but the weird button setup is so backwards. Focus winds up the gun and scope zoom is for actual aiming? And why the hell is L3 (or crouch button) a cancel button? It can be incredibly frustrating to get off your gun accidentally because of wonky button config on turret. Also that 150 degree angle and limited up and down angle is so ouch when you don't have a straight path or high ground / place turret on wrong side of a roof.
Also while her passive is amazing, its an auto focus on LMG's. Honestly I'd like it if it was any "machine gun" weaponry (to include smg's), seeing as this legit only gives you 3 weapons of choice to use her passive, and if you're not using it, you miss out.
Otherwise: Strong setup potential. Poor ambush potential. Ruthless final ring potential if other party can just immediately destroy any of your defenses. Confusing instruction manuals for controls.
Was gonna start my own thread but will post here.
I think Rampart is NOT OP. Here's why:
1. Her shields are easily destroyed
2. She takes forever to setup
3. Her minigun is everything but accurate
4. Her passive is pointless unless you are using an LMG
Here are my thoughts on changes. I like a lot of what @Monhulio suggests, with a few of my own.
Improvements:
1. Her shields:
- I like the idea of "2" setups. Her base should be really fast, then the amp should be slower
- Make her amp part a 2 way thing. Shooting out amps the bullets, shooting in reduces damage by like 70 percent. But also improve the health of the shield, keeps it from getting damaged too soon.
- Only allow 3 shields deployed. Period. Kind of like how caustic only can have 6 traps set. However, this would be needed if the above points are added, that way its not "too camper like"
- I would like her to have shields that support quick setup and leave not setup and camp
2. Her minigun is pointless at range. What I would like to see is the zoom slow down the rate of fire, but increase the accuracy to like 100%. I was shooting zoomed in and almost all my bullets were outside of that circle - why even have the circle?
3. Make her fast reload work for all the weapons
- @SolitaryMassacre
Taking less damage from other direction of amp is bad idea because it just encourages people to all aim for you all at once and still hit you for damage. Then suddenly when shield breaks your already super weak.
The number of shields is actually fine, because unless they get there early to setup, you rarely see more than 3 or the other amped ones are already broken from you firing at them. Having 5 lets you fully surround yourself and team technically speaking, to cover multiple angles. Theres no benefit for placing them in front of each other as amped cover shots break when stacked at present unless its just stacking walls after the previous shield got broken.
Her minigun really is like a giant threat that gets more acccurate the longer you fire. It's not a sniper, its a wheel of death that tells enemies not to leave cover or approach lest they get shredded. As long as the minigun is on higher ground than enemies with low to no cover they are literally sitting ducks.
Not sure i want her faster reload to work for all weapons. That invites no reload time RE-45 plays and fast sniping reloads that could get dicey.
At present, 3 wins with her so far, 104 kills last i checked. Getting used to LMG recoil and firing accuracy is super rough.
Just died to a duo boxed up with Rampart and Wattson camping in the last zones with 2 turrents. How are we supposed to counter this as actual players getting kills and needing to run into zone. The camping with 1-2 kills the whole match Ramparts aren't fun to deal with.
@Ramon1363 They played that way specifically to gain that advantage so too bad I guess? Depending on where the final zone was a Caustic+Lifeline duo would have been much more toxic and flexible. Secure a safe area earlier or get used to dodging bullets since this is a pretty basic tactic that many players use.
I'm not talking about the double minigun but locking down an area just inside the zone and punishing the players who ran from the ring at the last moment.
@Ramon1363 wrote:Just died to a duo boxed up with Rampart and Wattson camping in the last zones with 2 turrents. How are we supposed to counter this as actual players getting kills and needing to run into zone. The camping with 1-2 kills the whole match Ramparts aren't fun to deal with.
Learn to use crypto, mirage, pathfinder, etc.
yeah Mirage is a good counter to... yeah...
And Rampart do be a camping legend, camping is standing at a position to have an advantage against an ennemy, wich is totally rampart gameplay.
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