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reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago

Re: Apex devs have the wrong idea about the P2020

@ThisIsYourMoment

There has to be a pecking order to weapons or else why have more than one in the game in the first place?

And to answer the question "why have any gun that's only an 'early-game' gun," that's easy. It's to have more useless crap diluting the loot pool and making worthwhile weapons and attachments even harder to find. Rewarding hardcore looters and the lucky. Not sure that's such a bad thing.

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  • ThisIsYourMomen's avatar
    ThisIsYourMomen
    3 years ago

    @reconzeroWeapon strength in apex isn’t balanced by the weapon type for most all guns in the game though, it’s balanced by tiered attachments. That way you can use the guns you enjoy playing most with there still being a tier system to their strength throughout the game. Given this fact, there is no point to tiering the weapons themselves, or else that’s just bad game balance. Each weapon should have its niche function. Mozambique is a shotgun with the quick handling of a pistol. R-301 is a well-rounded assault rifle useful in many situations. 30-30 is fast mid-range poking weapon that can double as a sniper when pacing shots. If a gun doesn’t have its niche then the game is out of balance. As such, that is the case for the P2020. It has no effective use compared to every other gun you’ll find on drop, or throughout the rest of the game. That’s why I argue to give it more function by making it stand out as a reliable sidearm like it would be in other shooter games. Read my above replies for further explanation

  • SolitaryMassacr's avatar
    SolitaryMassacr
    3 years ago
    @reconzero I completely agree with you on the "hardcore looters and the lucky" lol. That is like 90% of this game. I drop in, find a p2020, enemy finds a PK, yeah whos gonna win? Its obvious.

    But in terms of balancing the guns, I think they should be balanced based on class - IE: Pistols do great up close, have INSANE reload speed and handling speed. Have bullet damage drop off - no more sniping with a wingman. SMG: Great up close and close-mid range. AR: Decent up close, okay mid range, horrible long range (no more lasered by an R301 from across the map). Marksman: great mid range, great long range. Sniper: decent mid range, great long range.

    Many times I get out gunned by guns that shouldn't even be capable of hitting me when I am using a sniper or marksman.

    I think a great buff to the P2020 would be a 1s reload speed.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @SolitaryMassacre

    Agreed across the board, but this...

    "Many times I get out gunned by guns that shouldn't even be capable of hitting me when I am using a sniper or marksman."

    ...I agree with a thousand times. I'm so sick of this happening. It's almost proof of aimbotting. There's no other explanation I can think of.