Re: Gun Recoil

If they haven't done anything to this point then they won't. like I have said before Respawn have given up on this game. They are moving on to other projects. Now it is a mater of just managing how much money they squeeze out of it before it is completely gone.

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I am heavily frustrated! I really, really like and enjoy the Titanfall universe and therefore Apex as well! I enjoy this game soooo much and I spend so much time and even a good amount of money in this game! I got so much better and I am now motivated like never before to finally reach the master rank! I came back to the game after I missed season 1-4 and love it even more, but these cheater are ruining it! They suck out the joy and motivation and I think I only have three options: 1. getting even better, 2. getting a anti recoil device as well, 3. leaving the game behind and do something else and more productive with my life... I am now on path number 1., but I know that number 3. would be the better option. Please Respawn! I beg you! Help us getting rid of these cheating devices! I want to appreciate a god like player and enjoy getting totally destroyed, because of another person's pure skill, but the chances the player is just cheating are just too high right now...

Bumping for old times sake and its still a major concern never mentioned or spoken about. 

Acumental, yeah i have watched him as well, and see he got no recoil.

I was off the game for the entire Season 6, come in Season 7 for a while, and now i`m gone again.

Still i`m watching some streamers, but not that much as before, but still i can comment on what i see.

For the time i played this game i was devoted, used Kovaak(i`m still using it) and Apex Aim trainer. I was putting hard work at the Firing Range as well.

And while you can learn the recoil, you still can`t laser it with 100% of the time. Its still going to kick, when you put 2x scope on R99 for example or 3x on R301, and whatever you do, you will have off shots. Same with Flatline for example. You can`t just keep on the target and still manage to control the recoil 100%, esp on moving target left to right and you doing the same. You either going to control the recoil or miss sight of the target with your crosshair on some occasion, but this doesn`t apply to some players for a reason. :D

The other thing that is super and i mean super susp. is when they are on zipline or on Gravity Lift(Horizon Q). When i`m thrown at the air i pretty much lost total control of the weapon. Good luck with the recoil. Yet some people laser beam you in this state, which is clearly a no-recoil either script or macro.

Recently i watch a video of a "PRO streamer", who made a video about why his guns doesn`t have recoil control and i laugh my ***** to the roof.

11 minutes video where he didn`t even try to explain why he doesn`t have recoil, just showing how he laser beam people. And there was like 10sec of that video, where he shows how he control the recoil on a wall. :D
And he did that with Prowler, and guess what he turned his macro/script off(yeah all streamer/pro cheats are on toggle or hold a button when wanna use it), and he totally lost control of the recoil. Obviously he keep it quite well vertically, but horizontally was a pretty much a splash, like you make a hit with Mastiff ....

Which happen a lot to me, and its normally, because of the recoil pattern.

Just watch his "recoil control":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIxs6evrUio

He is showing at 1:10. Its pretty obvious that he can`t control it, like he is beaming people. And note that he is stationary and is aiming at stationary wall. Its a different thing when you are moving fast and in the same time aiming at fast moving target, your control is going to be less accurate for sure.

Check at 6:27 where he try to show his zero recoil on R301 and have a good laugh at him again. :D

No one is going to admit he is using it, but its quite obvious. They are thinking this is their "special config" that separate them, and they are proud with it.

ShivFPS is the obvious case, the guy has 100k+ kills, 97k to be correct on his Bangalore, and is playing for the beginning, yet its obvious how his weapon kick, esp with 2x and 3x scope. If you watch his streams(not highlighted videos) its quite obvious that he is clean. There isn`t anything susp around him. He is missing shots, tho he has insane aim, its perfectly normal to not have 100% tracking and also zero recoil. Even if you known the pattern 100%, you still have recoil.

What really kills the game for me is this "soft" cheats, that Respawn are doing nothing for it, and they can`t at this state, because a lot of playerbase are here because of the streamers. If they start banning them now, the game will lose all of its fanbase.

If they didn`t do a ***** till now, no way they will do now.

Again if they decide to ban one of their shiny streamers, they will lose tons of fans. Also even the quite blind ones will start seeing what's going on around.

BTW recently i watched one of ShivFPS streams, and he was asked why he think R99 is trash(his words), and he say, cause its has bad range, aka kicks hard on distances, but its perfectly ok for SMG range. He mean that people that beam with it, are using macros for the recoil, obviously.

In one of his games, he played with Flatline and tried to finish a player, who was low, and at some distance, 30-50 meters probably, and he missed whole mag, cause of the recoil, his bullet was going left to right, cause he was trying too fast to reload and then start shooting, and obviously not perfect mouse position and couldn`t control the recoil.

What i mean with this is, that no one can have NO recoil at all. Shiv have around 150k kills(i saw his stats on his stream, 147k wtf), and his average damage is 1200+, as well as K ratio of 5+ kills per game ....

Yet the guy don`t use certain weapons that much, cause of the recoil thats kick. Yet there is some newcomers "pro streamers" comes out of nowhere and beaming with zero recoil with R99 for 100+ meters ....

I totally miss season 6, not played, not watched, but i remember ShivFPS was monster with Wingman. But he stop using it for a while, aka Season 6, and using Volt, and now his Wingman is nothing special, which shows you that you can`t be perfect with a weapon you barely use.

Yet long time ago, when Havoc has great recoil i watched Diegosaurs who already was away from Apex and played different game, beaming people at 100m. distance with Havoc with 100% straight up shoots, it was laser.

You either have to accept it, or move on, like i did.

I just play Kovaak, cause i`m use to now, and hitting a Quake quite a bit. Apex is a lost cause in terms of cheating.

I am still waiting for the very rare day where we get to play against legit players using stock mouse and keyboard. Still waiting for the day we have actually fair game play on this game. We have been begging for 2 years now for fair game play with zero progress of such a thing ever being fair. Instead we cater to high watch count streamers. Because they are being allowed to use it now everyone goes out buys the flash drive to do the very same thing. 

Shame the devs dont want fair gameplay. They want people exploiting their game mechanics. Wanna be heard? Then blow up reddit with the truth of these programs. Let them know we have had enough of it. Seems devs only watch reddit or twitter. Which is a crying shame. This topic is old and a big concern for a lot of us players. Yet we get no closer we get nothing at all but laughing in our face saying hahahaha our big streamers can cheat. Meanwhile regular joe is banned for cheating. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/kmeh5b/lets_talk_about_a_serious_problem/

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