Re: Remove Kings Canyon

I usually hot-drop straight out of the ship and go vertically down (so edge drop). There's usually only one or two teams - that's sustainable. You can fight that and win most encounters if you think tactically and put the third team between you and your initial opposition, and rotate around the fight rather than straight through it to prevent revives etc...

The problem is, once you've dealt with your one or two, because of the sounds being so audible at long ranges, people in the next region hear it, and traverse to you - so that's usually 3-4 additional teams heading your way... and the audio doesn't stop in the next area, its usually those on the NEXT area from those that start heading your way too.

You may luck out and get them to engage on each other before they reach you, but you need to have completed the following IN THE TIME IT TAKES FOR ONE TEAM TO TRAVERSE A SINGLE AREA:

1. Engaged in the current fight, and won it
2. Healed and reloaded all your weapons
3. Looted for more ammo / heals

If you're operating in a scenario where the opposition team does not have any transition abilities to move through the surrounding areas quicker, and they're not stopping to loot at every building or pill box. The entire fight has to be concluded within 30 seconds - which is unreasonable unless the initial teams are fully exposed and have low armour or heals.

I raise this as a concern because I was fighting artillery from drop. One other team landed with us. We fought the first team, and killed two of them within about 60 seconds. One ran away that we thought was a Crypto because a drone scanned us. The Crypto was part of another team from the tower connected to artillery. We wiped that team. Then another team came from behind artillery (I don't know that area's name), and while they attacked us, we quickly fell back to the building next to the climbable wall area to heal, and reload, and another team came through the wall.

While they were pushing on us, ANOTHER team came through the tunnel to engage on the team that came from behind artillery.

That's SIX teams converging on one spot because of a fight breaking out. This being an area that only has TWO connecting drop-sites (Tower, and that bit behind). People were coming from Containment, Radar, and that bit near run-off... just to get involved in a third-party fight, all in the first zone, all in the space of about 2 minutes.

When we finally died, there were 9 squads left, and 3 squads still in the Artillery area (even more turned up) even though it was no longer in the zone as zone 1 was closing.

It's utterly ridiculous.

@Stevoyd

What I don't like about Kings Canyon in geometry is much like Olympus. It isn't explicitly segregated into mini maps, so you can cross map from key areas in many directions into other regions. KC has some definitive segregation, but there are wide areas that are open to snipers with nearly 360 degree aiming. this makes traversing some ares very uninviting.

@MrGreenWithAGun

You're referring, I assume, to the upper river valley starting at Containment and flowing south. It's a huge bowl with lots of overlooks, and is definitely a sniper's paradise. And with one break, you get a repeat of the effect at Cage. These are areas you don't go through. You go around. Valk helps most, but so does Pathfinder or even Wraith. And now, with mobile jump towers, everyone's a Valk.

As soon as you stop thinking of these spaces as your graveyard and start thinking of them as someone else's it gets a lot more fun. Assuming you like mid-to-long range poking.

@reconzero"And I get wanting to drop where at least one or two other squads drop. It's a shooter and people do seem to want to shoot. But the longer you put off the fight then the better off you'll be. Statistically. And in terms of loot. Food for thought. "

I agree with your thinking, but at the same time this is true if damage and kill counts are not what you want, but rather to be one of the last 2 or 3 squads standing.

Some people on my team want to engage immediately so that they can rack up damage. I have only broke 1000 once, but I have seen others break 2k and they are very aggressive. I love playing with them when they work as a team with me, because they help me relax and I can do some real damage with them.

But here is the kicker. I won't know if the jump master is someone that is really good and will break 2k before the end of the match or someone who just wants to end his squad early as they drop us in hot.

I kid you not, once a teammate rebuked another teammate of mine for finishing off an enemy. His comment was, "Let them heal!"  He found them to be noobs and wanted to rack up as much damage as he could.

So funny.

@reconzeroBro, come on, you know that's not what you mean by these constant comments about "me good, teammate bad", "amen brother, sUrviVaL game" comments. You don't approve of how other's play hence you are being judgmental...calling teammates "drooling idiots" and all or replying with sarcasm to posts..and glossing it over with a "play however you want, I don't care", but you do otherwise you would not bring it up. You choose to play (with random players) a certain way then you get upset when people don't share your view.

"Experience tells me that one method leads to success more often than the other" ---That depends on who you ask. Players who are accurate and good at fighting would disagree, it's all over YouTube, all over Twitch daily and many more aren't public about it. They didn't achieve that ability out of thin air, but you seem to look down on players who are trying to work towards learning or leaning towards also trying to get kills / damage while trying to win. And before you say it's an unrealistic goal, I agree, for most it might be, but for others it is 100% achievable with effort. Can't blame anyone for at least trying things and "success" can mean different things to different people.

"Adapting to faults of your teammates" reads to me like "letting bad or inexperienced teammates get you killed is good sportsmanship." If you say so. ---This does not have to read that way, it's the way you choose to read it and tends to say a lot about your general outlook. We all were new to the game at some point. And I thought the point was to play as a team?