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Re: REMOVE MASTIFF ! OMG !

I find this post interesting because I actually think that the mastiff doesn’t do enough damage for me it’s very rare that the mastiff will do a 100 damage headshot usually it’s just 50 or 45 damage headshots I’ve even gotten a 36 damage headshot so I personally think that the mastiff is weak and should bring back the peacekeeper

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  • Xx__Miku831__xX's avatar
    Xx__Miku831__xX
    6 years ago
    @Big_Daddy_Tyrese It is because you use this gun wrong.
    You shouldn't aim for head for god sake.
    It is like you use mozinbique with hammerpoint for piercing their armor and then use sentinel with disruptor for reduce their health bar. It is just a joke.
  • Big_Daddy_Tyres's avatar
    Big_Daddy_Tyres
    6 years ago

    I don’t try to aim for the head I aim for the body and that’s when it only does 50 damage or less

  • Sir_Named's avatar
    Sir_Named
    6 years ago
    @LordloshBang The first link doesn’t work.

    Second image shows that they took 4 shots at you. 2 of which did 20-40 damage, 1 did 60, and 1 did 90. 4 shots takes relatively long to happen.
  • If i remember right i healed after the Triple Take shot i didn`t know where he was. Then i down one of his teammate(i actually think they were just 2).

    Let me describe you the distance we was at. Fragment, he come from behind the building everyone drops on, that is half open/destroyes when drop from the sky and you can drop straight away to the second/third floor.

    I was at the building with 2 floor with the stairs(everyonw knows here), exactly there, and you can tell the distance is big.

    So he come from behind the building(there is a door at this angle as well).

    And he decided to shoot me from that big range with the Mastiff and i was like oh easy, first shot landed for 40 and i was o dear, wtf, i was with R301 and when i start shooting he f****** hit me for 91 from that distance and i was like wtf  and decide to run, behind cover was close, but of course Mastiff range spread is ridiculous good luck trying to escape ....

    This is a pure AR fight that i lost, because he have so much superior ADS speed, and AR ADS speed is terrible and he will always shoot me with the Mastiff, no matter how i move.


    As you see i`m playing Bangalore which i did not get away from some stuffs, like Wraith players. Everytime i play Wraith i get away with so much more and they can barely hit me, but this is not the case with Bangalore.

    I`m talking purely of experience. Low level guys can barely do 10-20 damage with their main weapon, they switch to the Mastiff and i`m dead. No problem with Eva8, because its way easier to dodge Eva8 shots and/or people don`t have the skill to be used, yet with the Mastiff is totally different story.

    This is the second photo

    https://ibb.co/dQVCjtv

    This is when landing you get p2020 and the guy next to you get a Mastiff, you try to slide jump, but its over baby.

    And this is esp for you:
    https://vimeo.com/user85589895/review/445132099/9689b254c1


    But no sense for further discussion, your reporting me, i`m getting banned and on top of top my posts got deleted and i just lost my time, so discussion with you are a waste of time.

  • Sir_Named's avatar
    Sir_Named
    6 years ago
    @LordloshBang Okay, I can’t really tell what’s going on from your description.

    Second photo seems like what happens when you land with other people and don’t get lucky with a bodyshield or good gun.

    The Vimeo link doesn’t work.

    I’m not reporting you, so I don’t know who is. Heck, I was taking a break for like the past week or two, so I wouldn’t have been on.
  • I don`t know why the video don`t work to be fair. :D

    Second photo show you what happen when you land and someone get a Mastiff, he can clear the whole squad, no matter what gun you get(unless you get Mastiff too). Armor not help in that situation, because you will die in 2 shots, not in 1.

    Such damage should not exist in a game with the current TTK, unless its a CP weapon or a headshot sniper(which require skills, unlike Mastiff).

    https://streamable.com/r8ix8q

    We have a discussion about ShivFPS specifically and what he is using if you remember correctly:
    https://streamable.com/4s0pwo

  • Sir_Named's avatar
    Sir_Named
    6 years ago
    @LordloshBang Mastiff is good burst damage weapons.

    The actual TTK is lower than other actual guns.

    Let’s see, they probably could’ve beaten the guy in the first clip if they just kept their distance and waited his dome out. The main reason he was able to win was because he was strafing around his dome. The gun shield helped a lot as well.
    Unfortunately, they didn’t think of that. But it would’ve worked, given that there were 3 of them and the guy wasn’t going to revive anyone anytime soon.

    I do remember that we had some discussion like that, but I just kind of gave up since I don’t watch him and I wasn’t about to sift through multiple hours worth of video.
  • @Sir_Named Even if the TTK is lower, I still see more kills being made with it than other weapons. It's easy to use, gives almost guaranteed damage, allows close range peeking almost perfectly, what more do I need from a weapon? Minimizing my own damage income while my damage output is either very high or at least low.

  • @Sir_Named wrote:
    @LordloshBangMastiff is good burst damage weapons.

    The actual TTK is lower than other actual guns.

    Let’s see, they probably could’ve beaten the guy in the first clip if they just kept their distance and waited his dome out. The main reason he was able to win was because he was strafing around his dome. The gun shield helped a lot as well.
    Unfortunately, they didn’t think of that. But it would’ve worked, given that there were 3 of them and the guy wasn’t going to revive anyone anytime soon.

    I do remember that we had some discussion like that, but I just kind of gave up since I don’t watch him and I wasn’t about to sift through multiple hours worth of video.

    Nice joke. There is no other weapon where you can wipe the whole squads in a no time like you can do it with the Mastiff. And its ridiculous easy to play with it, because of the huge range it has. You are working with 15cm crosshair, and trying to compare it to 0.5 cm. crosshair nice joke.

    And do you know what TTK is btw? I`m asking you for second time, because you obviously don`t know and are making mistake saying low and high.

    Lower TTK mean - lower time to kill, which will said that you admit that the Mastiff kill the fastest .... :D Your words not mine.

    He would have die if he have any other gun than the Mastiff. With Mastiff you can peak and shot without getting shot, thats why he won. Having such a huge range with such a huge radius of its pellets(and insanely big damage) combined with 15cm crosshair with high damage in close to mid range.

    On paper some guns may have higher DPS, but you have to aim and land this shots. Good luck outlanding Mastiff with any other weapon in close, unless you headshot with a sniper.

    Landing the lasts shots in a close/mid fight with an SMG/AR sometimes is a pain and you can miss them and go on to reloading, and with the Mastiff, you have guarantee shots, even if its not full damge, because of huge range.

    P.P. Oh let me give you something recent.

    This is absolutely a joke. There is no other gun where i could feel that i done everything i could in the situation and still die to it and to way lesser level player.

    I`m a guy where i know why i die.; If i made a mistake, if i miss to many shots or if my strafes/peak/positioning e.t.c was bad and what mistake i made and i acknowledge that in order to improve.

    But many of my deaths to Mastiff just doesn`t feel right, aka its completely broken.

    I know some legends like Wraith, Pathy and Lifeline can get away with some of the Mastiff shots, but most of the legends just can`t, no matter if your a good strafer or not. Even the most average player will land most of his shots at you and will direct in a death.

  • Sir_Named's avatar
    Sir_Named
    6 years ago
    @LordloshBang Well, the R-99 can wipe squads easy.
    Yeah, my bad. I meant to say the TTK is higher. I think I was confusing it a little with dps.

    (Insert stuff I’ve said already)

    I guess you could stay further away.
    I really have to butt out of this, I’ve got nothing more to say.
    Sorry
  • @Sir_Named No. R99 cannot be compared to mastiff.
    As I mentioned before, mastiff takes ~.625s between 2 shots without any bolt, that means .625s is enough to kill a purple shield guy, while R99 needs ~1 second to do the same thing.

    The picture that AOD captured shows another problem of it. For R99 users, if you are too suck that you missed a few shots, then you will be doomed as you need to reload, which takes a long time when compared to mastiff. Mastiff has a higher damage capacity than R99, that makes it a low risk (large mag capacity that you should be able to kill one without reload) and high reward (kills faster than R99 if you can aim) weapon.
  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    6 years ago

    But with R99 you are running on 0.5 crosshair with very fast shots, which will mean if the target just move away and you start missing, its over for you.

    Even Pros miss shots with R99. 
    ShivFPS for example miss quite a lot. Yeah he have times where he is lasering, but he have times where he is missing most of his shots at close range, due to multiple factors.


    What is easy to land all your mag on R99 or to land a Mastiff shot with big radius, aka 15cm crosshair ? :D

    This was my point.