Re: Why can't my club be [GAY]?

@deadwetterBut who you are plays no role in a game. You are playing a game for your entertainment not revealing who you are to players in the game. This means they would have no idea nor care of what someone's gender or sexual orientation is defined as.

So personal identity has no place in the game?

Let's ban all usernames then! Let's make Apex like Fall Guys and give you a random name every round.

Finally, pure, objective entertainment.

These words are blocked because the game is full of children and many of them are not yet oriented.

Game is rated T for teen. Also, this is nonsense.

Your word is a sexual orientation and no one gives a * about sexual orientation in-game. Please keep your orientation to yourself.

Don't say "no one cares" when replying to someone who literally cares.  This is just lazy thinking.

@girlfiend 

14 thousand games I have played Not had a single game in 14 thousand games has anyone ever told me their sexual orientation. Your entire argument is stopped due to my examples. No one cares inside a video game.....

I care, my club members care.

What would it matter to you if I had [GAY] in front of my name?

I bet you'd ignore the ring and die to it just the same.

@JoberrykinsAs E9_ACTTV said above - THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS GAME FOR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, POLITICS, RACE, AND GENDER. These things should stay out of the gaming world.

it's fine that you don't care, but I established in my first post that I know people who do care.

You can just say "I don't care" and go do something else like someone who truly doesn't care.

Nothing about my having [GAY] in my name will make you any worse at sniping. No one if forcing you to learn anything.

THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS GAME FOR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, POLITICS, RACE, AND GENDER

There's actually a pretty good place already in the game! It's called the user name.

Putting a tag like "GAY" in front of your name will make a lot of players insult you. This will lead to hatred of sexual orientation.

Thank you for trying to protect me, but as someone with "girl" in their user name, I know how to handle harassment.

@JoberrykinsI just don't understand why it even matters? Why do you care if people know? Why do you want to force your care to know on others? We simply don't care. You also have only 2-3 people who think this should be a thing out of 1.2 million players that are online at this time. 

I just don't understand why it even matters? Why do you care if people know? Why do you want to force your care to know on others? We simply don't care.

First off, still want to note that you clearly do care, or you'd have walked away by now, but I'm going to continue to assume good faith and respond.

Do you propose banning "AZNGamer" or "BlackNerd"?

How about "GamerGuy" or my own name, "Girlfiend"?

What about your name? That's your twitch account, which is personal information that I don't care about.  Can we call that inappropriate?

Why does [GAY] need more scrutiny than any other nickname? 

Basically,

I think being gay is cool, and I'm proud of who I am and how hard my community has fought.

I think visibility can be great.

I know there are other LGBTQ people who play this game and feel similarly.

There are out, queer characters in the game, why is my identity reserved for in-game characters only?

Sorry people, someone hacked my account so I just changed the password to regain control! I don't even play apex legends! Just got a tonne of emails in my account from this thread. Don't pay any attention to whoever this troll is.

Idk what's going on but girlfiend's account is using my email address!

@E9ine_AC

"It doesn't belong because no one cares"

I care

"You shouldn't care because it doesn't belong"

I think it belongs

"It doesn't belong because no one cares"

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@E9ine_AC  My club tags welcome players LGBTQ+ and players with disabilities because i try to be as open as possible. So if thats an option that pretty much negates your reasoning that nobody cares, but ok. And honestly ive always believed that video games in general are a free space where you can be who you want to be. In my experience yes, your sexual orientation has no factor in whether i will play games with you or not, but i also believe if you want to represent yourself how you want then you should be able to. Apex is literally designed around inclusivity and representation yet youre arguing that none of these things matter, like you dont know what game youre playing. 

@girlfiend Unfortunately this post and its replies are a perfect example of just how toxic players can be and it is true that you will see backlash against your desired tag name, but i also believe youre well aware of that and desire to acquire it regardless. And you should have the freedom to do so. I believe Respawn labels it as profane because multiple clubs can have the same name or tag, and there might not be a way for them to monitor whos using it for personal representation or people using it for slander or as a slur. I think that might be the reasoning behind it. But i dont know honestly.

@E9ine_AC 

"I just don't understand why it even matters? "

It matters because they are blocking it on grounds of being offensive, when there is actually nothing offensive about the word.

Can it be used hatefully/offensively?   I'm sure the 12 year olds of the internet can accommodate.

But the word itself is not offensive.  And being told that something about is offensive and not allowed, is insulting.

I do agree personal stuff should be left out of video games.

@E9ine_AC Your GT or PSN name is within the same boundary, your club tag also slides right next to that name. You're not forcing anything upon anybody, you're just representing what you believe in or are proud of. Nobody is forced to look at your tag because it only appears in game to teammates. Its not in the lobby and its not in death boxes or anywhere else. Its just a form of representation, that's all. Bottom line. You're proclaiming to being forced to know someone's sexual orientation, does that trigger your PTSD? Anymore than a gamer tag or psn name would? Honestly? Video games absolutely are escapes for a lot of people, myself included. I'm very reclusive and introverted, and i also deal with a heavy amount of anxiety and depression, and i enjoy being around people just not huge crowds. That's why i love video games. 

Your argument just feels very personal, you state that none of these things matter but almost all games are designed to either make you feel something or give you a specific experience. These are stories and worlds being designed by people with different beliefs and views. The developers went the extra mile to establish specific characters like gibraltar as gay. Even though that takes no factor into whether i pick him or not. But they still did it, to be inclusive or just for representation or backstory. Who knows. But they included that representation, do you feel forced by the developers to be educated on these topics? 

I understand you're reasoning but it just feels like you personally don't want to see these things or know these things, and that's fine. Don't pay attention to it. Don't look at it. No ones forcing you to look at their names, cant you turn names off anyway? I don't actually know tbh.

@Slender-v1This is my exact thought on why I make this argument why should we be told? There are thousands of fake ttv names out there. I don't take it personal at all. I play games to escape the real world. Not to mix the 2. 

@Irres169 I agree that religion and beliefs and other things shouldn't be forced onto players (unless that's the specific design easily apparent to the consumer, at that point you know what you're getting into. Like Bioshock. At least infinite has a story that has a deeply rooted religious belief that's forced onto players) But we're talking about an optional thing for personal use that has no effect on the experience for anyone else.

Which i think is fine. We're not the dummies in the firing range, as much as someone might not agree, our personal quirks and traits translate into how we play our games and who we play as. I love playing support characters. Others don't. Our personality traits can have a factor into that.

@E9ine_AC Im not saying your argument is inherently invalid. I get it. Playing video games is a form of escape. But i think the fact that this post almost immediately became an argument instead of constructive criticism is the reason why its an issue to begin with. Like i stated i think most people would use it in a derogative manner i think that would be the reasoning why the developers wouldnt let it be used cause theres no way to monitor it. But i also think it would be nice for people to just have that freedom. They fought for it in the real world they dont want to feel denied that freedom in the digital world. 

So i understand both sides of the argument.