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Re: Why "Rank Demotion" Shouldn't Really Exist

@Palette24caratsWhat pros need:
Master 4 at 15k
Master 3 at 18k
Master 2 at 21k
Master 1 at 24k

What WE need: no more bronze to master challenge, no more higher skilled players in our games/rank, no more demote diamonds, masters and preds to bronze 4, 20 points per KP, less points for placement.

Simple.

But I expect them to do nothing for us anything for them.

12 Replies

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    @Palette24carats Just to let you know, they can do a rookie to pred challenge as well. Yup, that's right! The game lets you derank into the rookie ranking. A rank teir that's meant to be for new players or those who never played rank before. How much sense does that make? None... that's how much sense it makes.

    @dSKyNafinchin The only problem with that is the rank rewards, since players would already be in their highest rank achieved. You'll get players who would just not play rank and accumulate rewards they didn't earn. At most derank them to the last rank, (diamond I -> plat I) , and keep them there. If they want the diamond rewards, then they have to earn it again. They also shouldn't be allowed to be deranked after that point. Either that, or require the player to rank up within the rank division, (gold IV -> gold III) to be eligible to get the rank rewards. Maybe a derank to <rank> IV and then require them to reach <rank> III for rewards would work alright. Although again, the use of smurph accounts is just going to undermind that anyways.

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
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    3 years ago

    In what universe is this non-sense okay? EA and Respawn can no longer claim the game has "skill based matchmaking". If you can get into masters and pred, you're clearly way too good for anything lower, such as gold.



    Edited:
    Its clear that neither EA nor Respawn cares about the state of their game and that's honestly just sad. My teammates for the match below was a level 16 and a level 40. Yeah, that makes 100% sense, and is so "skill based matchmaking".

    Hahaha, kidding, matchmaking is broken, SBMM doesn't exist, and the game is just a pred/cheater lobby 24/7. I might as well go play another game.

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
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    3 years ago

    Both Octane and Seer are complete randoms. Why are they even allowed to be in a gold lobby with their kind of ranks? To me, if you're diamond or above in a gold or below lobby, you're smurphing. If you derank to rookie IV and have achieved diamond or above, you're also smurphing. This sort of thing should thus not be allowed. It says both were "diamond" players in season 14, why on earth were they allowed to derank down into gold?

  • Palette24carats's avatar
    Palette24carats
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Midnight9746 There is something you need to know about your post... the S13 badge in the corner was just introduced in Season 14 and believe it or not it was totally bugged!!! It would display everybody as a Rookie S13 except yourself most of the time... so all the images you share on the first post are totally invalid... those players were not factually Rookie in S13. Now in season 15 this bug is solved (because they needed to create that previous rank database I guess) and it now display the correct previous season rank of everybody.
  • Palette24carats's avatar
    Palette24carats
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Midnight9746 Yep! Imagine; Masters are part of the top 1% of players which means they will consistently win fights against 99% of random players imagine you put them against lower skilled players in a lower rank= total domination we don't even stand a chance. And they say the problem is that we used to rank too high,crap.
  • Palette24carats's avatar
    Palette24carats
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @Midnight9746they derank TWICE every season with no maximum derank... imagine! So a diamond 4 split 1 season 14 if he doesnt play split 2 will start season 15 split 1 as silver 4 ; SILVER 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This makes sense! The problem in rank is US grinding too much!!! Let's add hard demotions!! And 1 point per kp.

    And if he doesnt play split 1 season 15 then he will start season 15 split 2 as Bronze 4!!!

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    3 years ago
    @Palette24carats It's totally insane and yeah, I've heard about the bugged Rookie thing yesterday, however I'm still seeing players after the patch with Rookie IV as their last season rank, so I don't know what to really believe, and some players who's stats I've looked up on a stat tracker also shows they were in the Rookie rank. Although stat trackers can only gather so much data due to a limited API.

    At the very least, there's still high ranked players shown via their rank badges, so that's the issue now.
  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
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    3 years ago

    Assuming the rank icon is now "fixed", both my teammates are diamonds in a silver/gold lobby. If they were plat, that would be one thing. Since they're both much higher than this lobby, it tells me that SBMM still doesn't exist.


    Furthermore, this was the enemy team that killed us, a masters Wraith and Pathfinder, and the Horizon isn't shown because they have no badges or stat trackers shown, and the "last rank" only said Rookie IV like how it does for Wraith and Pathfinder.



    Respawn has killed ranked when they changed it for season 13 and they might as well remove the gamemode if they really don't want to fix the matchmaking.

  • Palette24carats's avatar
    Palette24carats
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @Midnight9746Your diamonds derank by 12 tiers... just like I said in my previous post they didnt play for a split and ended up Gold 4. This could be either because they didnt play or it's their rank smurf that they didnt play for 2 splits with. This rank doesnt make any sense and no matter what we say they don't even listen.

  • Palette24carats's avatar
    Palette24carats
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Midnight9746 Yes they could. If they reach diamond 4 in split 1 season 14 then they demote to gold 2 for split 2 still get a diamond badge for season 14 and demote to silver 4 for season 15. They play a few days to get gold 4

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