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Re: Wraith ideas... You're welcome.

@90128zdhn1l2
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The passive never works do me which is why I suggested the other.

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Having a small hitbox IS an advantage, it means you are harder to hit, having a small hitbox does not mean you won’t be hit, it just means the people in your lobby have to adjust an have very precise aim.

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Objection hearsay
Hip firing while flying would be an INSANELY overpowered buff.

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Valk’s ult is much better than pathfinders, it is a mobile jump tower, it is in no way bad.

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paths ult should NOT be his passive, that would be insanity, imagine a game where a passive can be used to reposition an entire squad! Al’s please not another scanning ability, we don’t need another one.

These ideas are absolutely NOT viable ideas, you need to consider the health of the game instead of just I want my fav legends buffed.

8 Replies

  • 90128zdhn1l2's avatar
    90128zdhn1l2
    3 years ago

    Absolutely rediculous. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I don't think you want the game improved. You just want things to remain the same. If the game remains the same, then it won't be fun, and no matter how many maps you add, battle passes, or more legends with the same old problems, none of it will matter and the game remains stale. 

    Guess it's time to find a new game. One that isn't corrupted by bad ideas, or a community who wants a game to remain ruined. What a waste of time and money. I was rooting for this game since it came out, but now I'm just burnt out by all this lack of innovation. Sorry for ever getting involved. Apex legends is like a mix between overwatch, and fortnite, but sadly never delivers like either of these titles. I was just trying to make it better. The health of the game is already compromised. Have fun with your broken, boring game.

  • BigMacAttack8u's avatar
    BigMacAttack8u
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @90128zdhn1l2 It’s has problems, but if any of these ideas were implemented they would ruin the game unlike other games, this game does not like to have one to dominate them all.
  • BigMacAttack8u's avatar
    BigMacAttack8u
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @90128zdhn1l2 Whenever some thing starts with respectfully, it always manages to be disrespectful. I do know what I’m talking about when it comes to apex.
  • heme725's avatar
    heme725
    3 years ago

    @90128zdhn1l2 Well things have gotten heated here. I'm going to ignored the mentions of every Legend other than Wraith since things seemed to become unreasonable when this topic moved off from her.

    Wraith's abilities are now a little lackluster. Her tactical requires a bit of foresight and her Ultimate shines best with teams playing competitively. I see no problem with tweaking them to make her feel more fluid or fun but she's a pretty balanced if boring Legend.

    @BigMacAttack8u Is right that her biggest advantage is still her relatively small size which is something your opponents will feel more than anyone that mains her.

    Allowing her tactical to activate a bit quicker and trying to get her passive to work reliably is all that's needed to make her feel more fluid/comfortable to use.

    As for making her more fun I don't know? If she can phase through solid objects that would be way too cheap besides she doesn't become intangible just changes dimensions. I personally find most attack/mobility characters boring so can't help with this.

  • All phasing through solid objects does is make her more viable at doing what she already does; reposition herself or allies. If all Wraith is good for is moving people around, doesn't it make sense that she should be good at the only thing she can do? Her name is Wraith; If you look up the definition, her name makes no sense with her abilities. We should just rename her phaser since that's what she actually does. Open your imagination to the possibilities. Wraith could be great by just going through solid objects and having control of her phase ability.

    Hitbox aside, it would make for some really fun plays if she had a new trick up her sleeve. Never knowing when or where she can strike from, or being able to survive just a little bit better. This improvement would make her a hell of a lot more fluid. The truth is she is broken right now and not in a good way. Competitive play is a whole other league because the pros break the game no matter who or what they play. Might as well make a fun game instead of a balancing act. Besides, it's as I've said before; if every legend is good at what they do, or if they are all overpowered in their own way, the game will be more balanced.

    Players will return if the game changes in this way. I myself think when the game first started, it was a way better game even though players had less to choose from. Many would agree. I miss select fire for my Prowler especially. That was my favorite gun, but they ruined that too. Wraith instant phase. All these things and more made the game fun. I will say that the game has made a lot of improvements too though. I would just like to see more. 

    Bangalore ultimate should be instant too, and that's all I have to say about that. Give a warning on screen that says Incoming Airstrike, and a minimap, or visual aid showing the direction of the strike. Easy peazy. The delay makes it useless.

  • DrWizardo's avatar
    DrWizardo
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @90128zdhn1l2 I imagine you being at the final circle. Your team being poorly positioned and pinned due to the other team having better rotation and general awareness.
    You are pretty much dead to zone, it sucks but it is what it is.

    NOPE!

    Wraith portals and uses her tactical to phase through the wall/s/mountain/what ever and plops a portal on the other side while being invulnerable. Out comes the team and RATATTATATATTATATATTAAA you win.

    Hurray!... only it is cheap as F and you deserve to lose. Sorry but Phasing through object will be one of those skills that just feel like griefing. Like wall hack on Seer.
    Kidnaps will go INSANE plopping people off the map or into areas they just can't get out of without special movement abilities or complete reworks of the maps.

    I don't play Wraith all that often, but I do feel her tactical could activate faster. When I play against her it is still quite strong tho'. People are just better at using it than I am. Plus that the get out of zone undamaged is really handy.

    An idea could be to put stages on her ult. have it charge in instances and let you create either a longer portal, or a couple shorter ones. Plus if you want to be really creative you could branch an existing portal.
    And possibly being able to switch direction inside of the portal, although that could make it so that it would go unstable and implode or something.
  • First of all, Seer is broken, and on this, most of us agree. 24/7 wall hacks and sight is lame - another passive that needs a rework. However, when it comes to Wraith, you just proved my point. You have just made her decent enough to pull the victory a bit better. You are talking about an isolated incident which doesn't occur very often, but have now just proven why it would be effective in an apex match. If anything, the people who got a free victory just because they got lucky on last circle should have a run for their money for once. Having a chance is still better than having no chance, and besides, Ash can do that crap anyways, so it's already in the game. Again, proving that Ash is just a lazy remake of Wraith (plus she has a rat as a pet - eww, gross). Wraith gets better in a way that is unique to her. More possibilities = more fun.

    If Ash can do that, and Mirage can do this, and Fuze can do that, then why the hell can't Wraith? Wraith just becomes trickier than originally planned, but that is the point. She gets useful, and that is all that changes. She deserves to be good at something in the game. Every legend should be great in their own way. If repositioning is Wraith's only function, she should be better at doing precisely that.

    If you all disagree with me than that is fine, I will accept it, but I need to fight for this. Apex is worth it, and I want to. It's like sitting on a gold mine, but y'all treat it like a hair salon. I just want every legend to be great in different ways. We can make this game greater than it is. Right now it feels like an FPS with lame abilities; lame abilities with cool VFX. Why can't we change it to be more useful like Overwatch's powers are? The game will get better by doing this. At least do some gameplay testing first, and see what I mean.

    *Side note - Please bring back Select Fire for my Prowler SMG, and Havoc Riffle. These used to be way cooler guns than they are now. You took away cool functions which have hindered the game since.

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