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5 years ago

Recoloring Battle Pass Skins & Its Ethics

With the recent leaks of future recolors to previous battle pass(BP) skins, I can't wrap my head around anyone supporting this idea. The excuses I see others use to defend this completely ignores the point of a battle pass and the idea created by devs that battle pass cosmetics are off-limits and would never return.

Regardless, this is one of the most insulting decisions by devs I've seen, a spit in the face of the entire apex community. The devs have basically used us for our money/time and are now tossing us all in the garbage.

Copying the exact skin models from previous battle passes and just slapping on a different color is laughably and blatantly unethical. Do they think we're that dumb to think this is acceptable?!?

For those that say "it's just a recolor and not the same skin," you are wrong. Is the model not part of the skin? Are the models not unique to their seasons and unobtainable outside of their season? As I said, they are taking rare and unique models that are unobtainable outside of their seasons and are just slapping on a new color. Yet it seems we get this flood of people defending Respawns, trying to convince others that the recolors are not essentially the same skins, and content creators not speaking out against this. It almost seems as if everyone has their own selfish motives at play here. This is the kind of behavior that turns players like me off.

In Conclusion,

I think the result of recoloring BP skins will have long term negative effects on apex, causing players to leave apex, lose trust in devs, and view the BP as no longer having value. Why do you think devs are doing this? How do you think this decision will affect the longevity of the game? Do you think this decision is ethical or not?

Note: Those that comment such things I've listed below will be ignored:

"Just let others who missed out get a chance"
"It's not that serious"
"It's just a skin"
"It's only a recolor, not the original skin"
"You're butt hurt"
"You're just mad"
"Salty OG"
"Calm down"
"You're taking this way too serious"
"It's just pixels"
Any personal attack & trolling

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21 Replies

DK9027
5 years ago
@Psn388 The only thing I an see making this negative is if we're forced to use apex coins to get recolors of skins we've essentially already paid for instead of legend tokens. I'll understand if you dont own the original skin then you have to use apex coins, but aside from that I really dont mind. This is for the anniversary after all we dint have evidence that they'll be doing this all the time. If it goes well then maybe every anniversary a few skins will get a re color. But it doesn't seem too huge if that would be the case with three or four seasons and events coming out each year.

And there is some variations on the models, for instance i dont recall the spikes on the season one skins. I kind of like it. Longevity? If someone missed out itll attract them back or new players who've seen past skins but didnt get to the game in time.

Oh and uh comments 1-4, 8, and 9
Guiltygear-Z
5 years ago
Are your previous skins that you collected now suddenly useless with the re-colors coming. Can you somehow magically not use them anymore.
If not the case please add #12. You are entitled as F*.
Psn388
5 years ago
@Guiltygear-Z I did not say that. I've already stated my reasons in my post.
Psn388
5 years ago
@DK9027 So, you don't see dishonest advertising as being negative? The spikes are also on the season one tier 100-110 Havoc skin. The recolor is an exact copy of the original except for the color.
DK9027
5 years ago
@Psn388Still its not really false advertising is it? The model has been recolored yes, but people arent getting the the specific coloring from past battle passes. One could argue that this enough of a distinction to fall in line with what they said about past battle pass skins not returning.

I refer you back to my original comment. I dont Care, the skins look amazing. As long as we can use legend tokens to get the recolor of the skins we've paid for already I'm fine.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@Psn388Nearly all the worlds advertising holds dishonest advertising. This is what you are not understanding.

Example

Pictures of food restraunts offer to sell you. You get food it looks nothing like its picture.

Insurance they talk you up on everything it covers then in the end you get a huge bill.

Self driving cars offer the safest driving experience one can offer yet it has had wrecks.

Trains are known as one the safest and fastest ways of travel yet they come off the tracks at times or hit cars at intersections.

Taxes you are told you will pay less in taxes which may be true but you take a smaller refund because they accounted the taxes in that.

ALL advertising by any company has hidden dishonest advertising in it. Its up to the user if they choose to see it and choose to buy it or not.
Psn388
5 years ago
@DK9027 It is false advertising. The model is part of the skin and the BP models being recolored are unique to their seasons and unobtainable outside of their seasons.
Psn388
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC So are you saying it's ok for companies to rip off their customers?
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@Psn388 I see you have never been in marketing and it shows. Companies are here to make money not sugar coat things. What do you think pays all these devs and designers and tos teams lore teams? Companies say and do many things in the name of advertising to generate income on a free to play game.
Psn388
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC So are you justifying dishonest advertising because it makes money?