REMOVE MASTIFF ! OMG !
I swear ! I got killed by a guy level 60 ! plz it's a beginner ! MASTIFF requires no shot ! How to ruin a game with 12 bombs cuz of this noob gun ! get brain when you are doing some updates !
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@heme725 Actually that low fire rate didn't balance at all.
As you mentioned, Damage really matters when firing the first round. And Mastiff can land 100+ damage if you can really aim, and 2 shots can take out a purple shield character (or red shield if you are lucky to land headshots). This only takes 0.625 second to do this (without bolt). But with R99, since it has a low damage of shots, so we can just use DPS to calculate, which is 198. That means we need ~1 second to kill a purple shield guy. If you are too bad that cannot land 2 shots of 100+damage on the opponent, then you are doomed. But if you do, then your opponent will be melted.
The problem is that things become worse if you are already injured, mastiff will likely kills you in one shot, so unless you also bring a gun with high-damage per shot (ignoring DPS), you cannot win a fight like this.
As you mentioned, Damage really matters when firing the first round. And Mastiff can land 100+ damage if you can really aim, and 2 shots can take out a purple shield character (or red shield if you are lucky to land headshots). This only takes 0.625 second to do this (without bolt). But with R99, since it has a low damage of shots, so we can just use DPS to calculate, which is 198. That means we need ~1 second to kill a purple shield guy. If you are too bad that cannot land 2 shots of 100+damage on the opponent, then you are doomed. But if you do, then your opponent will be melted.
The problem is that things become worse if you are already injured, mastiff will likely kills you in one shot, so unless you also bring a gun with high-damage per shot (ignoring DPS), you cannot win a fight like this.
@Xx__Miku831__xX True you can't win a fight against a Mastiff in that situation and I'm fine with it. Unlike AOD I view shotguns as a primary weapon so they need to be competitive in some way.
Basically there are three ranges of combat to consider. Long-range, mid-range and close-range. You can balance guns by making them all equally capable at fighting at every range (a boring method of balancing to me) or give guns a combination of weaknesses + strengths to put them on par with each other.
SMG's should excel at close-range, be competitive mid-range and suck long-range
Full auto assault rifles should be competitive at every range but dominant at none of them.
Snipers should dominate long-range and suck at close range,
Shotguns should dominate close-range, weak at mid-range and useless at long range.
That's typically how shooters work at least. The weaker you are at the other ranges the more you should compensate by dominating at the one thing you offer. If a gun is exceptionally versatile then it shouldn't be the most dominate gun at any individual range.
If you view shotguns as a primary weapon then it needs to compete with other guns at two of the three ranges or dominate at one exclusively. If you view it as nothing but a clean-up gun then we'll never agree but I understand your viewpoint. If you view the Mastiff as a primary weapon but want to equalize its strength with other weapons at close range then there's no point picking up the gun at all.
Not touching a gun that's equal to a R301/R-99 at close range and inferior everywhere else.
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