I know i am going to get flamed but i wanted to get my 2 cents out here. Not here to debate about AA or MnK what stronger what about this or that, the arm, fingers whatever etc. Not interested.Just wanted to point out almost 90% of NA players switching to "Roller" as being the "Superior" input. You got to question why? Just look ALGS 14 of the top fraggers are roller with only 2 on MnK. This Includes some of the best MnK players in the world who has clocked 7000+ hours has made the switch to stay competitive. Few season back 92% of the top 25 Predators were controller. Feel a little cheated those of us that pride ourselves and have dedicated our time to perfect our skill and manage all the input ourselves. With AA you havent merely level the playing field, you have far exceeded it. Aim is no longer a big issue when it does basically half the aim for you. Not saying it doesnt require ability but it is broken and just makes a complete mockery of this game. Console players i get they have no choice and is their natural input.Why not decrease AA the higher ranked u go so from Plat 0.3. Diamond 0.2 and Master & Predator 0. If your that good then surely u dont need this broken gimmick to get ahead?Peace

Only 9 out of top 30 players on the kills leader board in the current ALGS still use MnK and none of them are in the top 11.

Disabling AA completely isn't good, precision isn't the greatest with controllers.Personally don't think it's really a good thing to change the strength of AA, keep it the same per rank.0.6 is too strong, so lowering it globally is already fine IMO.

@1unown1 Thats actually a really good point it not only locks on the target but also helps turn your pov in the direction their moving for you.. Snipe even explains when the age old arm vs fingers aim came up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSv0_Gp_E7c @1.10Sadly as i said there little point debating anything about AA itself we arent going to resolve it like this. Dont get me wrong mnk is far from defenceless but no matter how good you are, you wont beat AA consistency in the long run.

@r1ggedgame The only video I see was posted by Sazabi so it's a little confusing what you mean. Yeah AA has an advantage up close and most players agree with that. Many would also be open to adjusting it even if the PC crowd had nothing to say about it. We mostly take issue with the comparison to mods/cheats as well as players making up weird abilities that AA/Controller apparently have that none of us controller players have ever experienced.That video mentioned that his characters turns to track a strafing target even without input from the player. Maybe my skill level is so low that my character chooses not to do that but I have NEVER seen that so it makes it seem like people are slipping BS abilities into AA's kit.I'd also be interested in a Pro's opinion since they may have insight into things I've never noticed or experienced but I never forget two things.#1. Pros may be able to make use of tricks/abilities that the vast majority of the community can't so they can't speak on what the majority of the average players make use of.#2. Pros can be biased and prone to exaggeration/emotional arguments like anyone else.A Pro's words carry more weight than a casual player with illogical arguments but no more weight than anyone else with a reasonable point.

@r1ggedgameI don't need a direct quote to get the point across. It's just a smaller nutshell of the same thing.And again you bring up more pros, not surprising. Don't you ever validate your opinions with your own experience? I've already pointed out why you can't take pros seriously on AA.I saw your video, listened to it, and what I took away from it was a pro using a controversial topic to get more views from people like you.He started with "this is what AA is and ended with I'm going to show you why it's op" and in his case he would have done just as well with mnk <---that is why you can't take the pro seriously.They aren't the majority of the player base you will come across in game. The majority of the player base DOES NOT play like a pro does.Yet for some reason you insist on believing that players that have AA play like gods at close range when I am direct proof that, that is so far from the truth.If it were so op I'd be winning more games than I lose and I'd certainly have a higher kdr.There's even been people telling you that they play on both and they prefer mnk over controller.But you're so caught up in what Mr pro has to say you don't care about what anyone else says or their own personal experience.So no. I'm not going to listen to a pro over what I've encountered actually playing on a controller, because as I've said before the pro can literally pick up the worst gun in the game, wipe over half the lobby with it, and say it's op when it is still the worst gun.I'm going to listen to what normal people have to say, if they've struggled or if they did fine, and then I'm going to notice how it works out for me and base my opinions accordingly. I'm not going to base it off someone that does everything at a God lvl because that is unrealistic.Does AA help in a close range fight? Sure, I'll give it that much, but I don't believe it's as op as it's being made out to be.

Respawn/EA Please see this. Controller topic

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XHelperZ
Hero+
3 years ago
Disabling AA completely isn't good, precision isn't the greatest with controllers.
Personally don't think it's really a good thing to change the strength of AA, keep it the same per rank.
0.6 is too strong, so lowering it globally is already fine IMO.
reerex
3 years ago
@Sazabi888 90% Huh? Bro where did you even come up with that number lmao you’re just making that up.
XxColdFangxX
3 years ago
I think there should be more options for AA instead of just turning it off and on.
A good ratio from higher to none that way players can ween themselves off of it if they want to.
Personally AA hasn't been a friend to me so I don't understand why people complain so much about it.
Sazabi888
New Traveler
3 years ago
Only 9 out of top 30 players on the kills leader board in the current ALGS still use MnK and none of them are in the top 11.
1unown1
3 years ago
@Sazabi888 They just need to make it so rotational AA doesn't kick in until you input the other direction on your joystick. I think it's switching direction is the only uneven thing and it's only so uneven because it's instant and not many humans can do that. Even lowering it wouldn't make the most difference, or I don't think it would
Sazabi888
New Traveler
3 years ago
@1unown1 Thats actually a really good point it not only locks on the target but also helps turn your pov in the direction their moving for you.. Snipe even explains when the age old arm vs fingers aim came up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSv0_Gp_E7c @1.10
Sadly as i said there little point debating anything about AA itself we arent going to resolve it like this. Dont get me wrong mnk is far from defenceless but no matter how good you are, you wont beat AA consistency in the long run.
r1ggedgame
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Sazabi888 Let them have their fun, we all know that people needing an assist (AA,XIM, Mouse Scripts, Bots ect.) are not really up for the task in the 1st place.
reerex
3 years ago
@Sazabi888 Another player who basis their theories off what TOP PLAYERS do. You’re not a top player dude. Most apex players, aren’t top players. What does this have to do with anything? Well, when you’re just a regular player like the rest of us, AA really isn’t that big of a deal because the people on the controller don’t use it to their advantage like pro players do. Pro players have the mechanics, aim pattern and everything else about the game down. So AA is that little boost that gives them an edge over the other pros who also have the game mechanics down. That doesn’t translate with the rest of the player base, where the average player doesn’t know about recoil pattern, movement, basic situational awareness, etc. 9/10 when you get beamed, the player was just better than you. Don’t blame it on AA. Instead evaluate yourself and get better man. Or keep blaming it on AA and stay stuck at the current level.
r1ggedgame
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
oh the same broken record again ... dude take a look around , everyone acknowledges it, but the LVL3 sockpuppet ...
Literally the same as i called out the rigged matchmaking nearly 2 years ago, people not believing me ... but was right all along.
DaleFox2012
New Ace
3 years ago
@r1ggedgame Hahaha I always laugh when I see these AA posts. Mainly because you always have your input. There was a very lengthy post about this a short while back and you stopped commenting on it when people hit you with valid points haha. Oh well haters be hating.