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Seasoned Ace

4 years ago

SBMM and the average to below average player

The SBMM in Apex is the single biggest issue with this game, followed closely by the spotty positional audio. After getting banned for a rant against SBMM that violated the terms here, I started tracking my games.

For context, my KDR this season is 0.79 and 0.61 lifetime so I am admittedly a below average player. I play PC, M&K and am older so I know I'll never be able to compete on twitch skills with kids who have played FPS's since they were in diapers.

First 6 today...3/2/4, 1771 damage total. 3 top 10s, 1 win where I was hard carried by a Diamond Caustic (I'm Gold IV) who got 11/3/11, 2.6k damage. 5 of the 6 we got killed in our first gunfight for a variety of reasons from a random running off and dying to a 3rd party to BS where I was dead almost before I could start shooting. All pub matches, solo queue with randoms.

How is this an acceptable outcome for SBMM? It isn't just that I die without a kill about 2/3rds of the time, it is that I die in lopsided fashion so often. Some of it is teamwork, some of it is my lack of skill, but the rest is just BS matchmaking.

My feedback is for Respawn to come clean on what they are doing with SBMM and when they are making changes. You don't have to give away the details, but FFS talk to the community about WTH you are doing about it. There are hundreds of posts here complaining about it and nobody thinks you care and are ever going to do anything about it. There's got to be a better way, Respawn.

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13 Replies

Littumulkero
4 years ago
I agree that there is a lot of frustration going around with MM (this game and many others). Since there is so much money involved I assume we will never know how the system really works. It might be possible that this current system is making more money than any other this far.
I was stating that winrate has to be one factor also. If players never ever win then why even play? Thats why there are those games what you have described (2 god like team mates who just stomp all and gg there is your win). Might be hard to admit but win is a win..right? =)
Something should be done. I think it is really not good for game to have even this much debate about matchmaking. Smurfing is the worst. That should be the first thing to tackle. There is so much going on in this game and so damn many variables that producing rock solid matchmaking in pubs must be pain.
Cheers. Lets see in the outlands and keep improving!
StelioRokos
4 years ago
@RockDokRock Except here's how you game the system: You make a new account.
Boom. Now toxic players and smurf types get put against below-average players for thousands of games.
Or they can just not participate in a split, and now they're Bronze again, so they can destroy players for hundreds of games.
The matchmaking doesn't hinder them at all.
RockDokRock
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@StelioRokos That doesn't invalidate my observation. Of course there will be other obvious ways to game the system they need to work on.