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Not applicable

4 years ago

Smurfers galore

Why do we have to be stomped by every cheater and smurfer in this game? Why can't respawn finally do something about it? Are they even working? What are they doing? Every goddamn ranked game we have ...

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Asmodeus566

Hero+

4 years ago

@ctyf6rri93dm @AreYouShivering @Midnight9746 @Palette24carats @lops3004

There have been many posts/threads about Smurfing. Is it bannable, yes. Is it hard to detect/identify, yes.

From what others have said in the past and it is my understanding Smurfs are those that create another account and intentionally tank games in order to play and feed off of lower skilled/ranked players.

With that in mind how can you tell the difference from a ToS allowed alternate account?

Alternate accounts are allowed. Lets say that an X-box player, master/pred skill player on that platform decides to buy a PC and decides to make an account with that PC is that account a smurf account? No it is not. And yes that player is now low level and the change from console to PC or vice versa is not such a skill set change that that player will not be good. So yes they will be low level and ranking up or killing the lobby until SBMM catches up with them and starts putting them in harder lobbies.

What you have all been talking about might in fact be Smurfs but it could also be new accounts, alternate accounts etc.

StelioRokos

Not applicable

4 years ago

@Asmodeus566 It's actually super easy to detect. A level 20 player with 900 kills is obviously smurfing. A sub-level-100 that has 4k & 20 bombs are obviously smurfing. I guarantee these players have 20-30+ K/D's, which would again, be an obvious sign of smurfing.
Someone who switched from Xbox to PC wouldn't drop a 20-bomb in their first 100 games.
"SBMM" never "catches up." The game pits me against Diamond+ players who always, always, always have 4k 20-bombs. I average 300 damage per game and have less than a 0.5 K/D. After 2,000 games, the "SBMM" has decided I'm a Diamond+, 4k 20-bomb player with unbelievably low stats.

RockDokRock
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@StelioRokos True, but by the time you've figured out the level 20 player with 900 kills the damage is kind of done already isn't it?
I honestly don't know the stats at their disposal and analytics available. I would be shocked if there was not at least one statistician type on the payroll that goes over the numbers of games, engagement, etc and tries to look for anomalies.
Really good players will naturally be outliers to the rest of the community, but, are there oddities in their play too? It's a hard problem. I still believe the problem is the community and not as much EA as there seems to be a not insignificant amount of people who will game the system any way they can so they can win or get lots of kills. It's a never ending battle and I can't see an easy solution to that. I won't touch ranked because it is so broken; it's not that they don't care, it's because it's populated by toxic players who will sacrifice everything so they get to have easy kills. Those people will always exist and find new ways to become toxic every day. It's a really sorry state of affairs that that is the way it is.