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Not to mention the amount of flame and toxicity you get as a solo Q from premade duos. Just came out of a game with a premade duo.
First thing that happened was that we won the initital 3v3 fight. Both me and one of the premades were knocked. The second premade ran towards me to res but realized I wasnt his premade and literally turned 180 degrees away from me when he was 2 meters away and ran to res his friend instead. They looted all three boxes before ressing me. But then, a second enemy team 3rd partied and I just managed to swap to a white armor without healing my health but I decided to stay and fight anyways (and not run away and heal like 9/10 people do in that situation). Since I had a PK, I figured I could at least deal a 100-200 dmg before going down, which I did. We won the fight and they ran around infront of me and looted all the boxes instead of ressing me. One of them even clicked on me instead of a box and started a res but cancelled the res so he could loot the box haha. And when I had 3-4 seconds left before bleeding out, one of them ran up to me and started to tea bag and said "oooh sorry you died" when I died.
Then they ran past a respawn beacon without ressing me and started to fight another team which they manage to win. And finally, like in round 3, they respawned me (for some reason, I came back with white armor and no guns hrmm is there a time limit to respawn with your gear?). I politely told them "Hope you realize I will go solo now since I dont trust you. GL HF, see you in top 2". Eventually they died before me and both started to say they must vile stuff on the team channel you can possibly imagine...
Well well , the Apex Solo Q experience =)
And now someone will say "just report them"..... Well whats the point? Seems like Respawn has gone from zero tolerance (getting banned from saying "u are dumb") to anything goes. I got flamed hard by a premade duo a couple of days ago. They kept spamming the chat with things like this.. I reported and just recently got the confirmation mail that no actions were taken.. So apparently, premade duos are free to do whatever tpxic and hateful stuff they want, both in game, on the team channel and chat.
- Midnight97462 years agoHero+
@Balladalidila I've gotten those kinds of teammates as well, except in some cases there was no other team nearby, and they waited the whole bleedout timer to expire to then loot my box because when we landed they saw me land on purple armor, near a gold gun, and a gold extended mag, and they wanted to be greedy. One was an Octane, the other was a Wraith, so go figure that they wanted what they didn't find.
The game thought I had so much fun, it gave me them as randoms two more times. Its frustrating that in most games when you block and report a player, you'll stop seeing them, but in Apex it doesn't care you didn't like being treated badly. Which reporting in general is pointless, as I would report bad names, bad communication (if I saw or heard it), etc. and get countless "we didn't take action" emails.
At this point, it doesn't bother me as much anymore, since I would withdraw from fights when I notice the randoms are playing like they're in a Discord call, (especially if they're doing things like looting out from under me). Not to mention that the communication filter is always set to "friends only", unless I feel like they could be communicated with, (which rarely happens).Moral of the story: Treat others how you want to be treated.
I would share loot sometimes, (be it better attachments or armor), and the duos I get were more likely to help me back when I needed help. Most of the time I don't because they're just running off a lot.- Balladalidila2 years agoSeasoned Ace
Luckily, at least in my experience, getting teamed with such toxic premade duo is quite rare and it almost only happens in low rank lobbies and never in plat+. The main reason why people choose to act like this can be summarized in one word: SMURFING. If everyone just played at their actual peak rank, they couldnt afford to act like this, because the only chance you have to perform when literally everyone in the lobby can one-clip anyone else, is to try to work as a team. But since so many in each ranked lobby just mess around on alt accounts, they dont care about those things. Having fun with their premade buddy is infinitely more important than performing well as a team.
So I blame Respawn for it. They should make a ranked system which makes it virtually impossible to smurf. Start with things like ranking up overperformer much faster. I see no valid reason what so ever to NOT give someone who does 4000 dmg and get 15 kills in a match an instant 2-3 ranks promotion. They should also have harder restriction in ranks between premade duos (so often you see a bronze4 together with a gold1 in your plat lobby and such duo NEVER tryhard).
- Midnight97462 years agoHero+@Balladalidila Literally this.
When they came out with the hidden MMR system, they had pretty much said, "if you go up against higher MMR players, and you win despite the odds, you'll get more points to rank up quicker".
What this meant was that if you're in the rookie rank, and you squad wipe a full gold squad, you'll get points to rank up to at least silver, if not gold a lot sooner. What ends up happening is that you got little to no points if you didn't place top 10, let alone 5. (I'm talking about in S17 here). Then in S18 and S19, they seemed to have done away with any bonuses you get from the matches all together.
If the "hidden MMR" matches us up in "lobbies with players of similar MMR", that means that most of us should be pred players, if not masters or diamonds. I cannot tell you how many times I've loaded into a bronze and silver ranked match, and the champion team is a full pre-stack diamond, masters, and/or pred team, with countless of smurfs running around the matches, and players using obvious cheats.
If the game thinks one can 1v3 a cheating, smurfing, or diamond/masters/pred squad, it should at least fast track that player to a higher rank instead of bullying them by going, "hahahah you lose points cuz you died!"
Not to mention the fact that none of the randoms seem to be useful 99.9% of the time. Like, why have a "MMR" system, if the game is just going to give you two teammates that play as if they just downloaded the game?
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