Teammates your skill level

@qbgxmdu3tliy
This game suposedly has very complex MM system which is suposed to make you win some and loose some, just to have you in this cycle so you dont get bored from game. Soomeone explained it here and it made sense and it was exactly what I was etting for my 1300 hours in game every day. I bet the guy was right.

@Awhoo_Thunder 

These are just speculations based on a rumor that Apex is using a type of matchmaking algorithm that EA has developed called EOMM. But if people spent just 5 minutes to educate themselves rather than believing in every thing they hear, they would understand that EOMM is literally 0% applicable to a game like Apex. EOMM is developed for games like FIFA, MADDEN, NHL etc but the parameters that the entire algoritm is based on just doesn't apply to Apex. 

I think its so silly to believe that the matchmaking is hard wired to to make you win some and lose some. Its so easy to debunk such thought. First of all, think of the player base and how skill is distributed, i.e normal distributed, probably with a quite low mean. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the mean is around the player that goes 1 k/d in silver lobbies. Now just think logically and you will realize that there is not possible to design a matchmaking that would manipulate the skill level of any given players opponent so that he would "win some and lose some". To achieve that, you would need a infinite large player base queuing at all times of infinitely varying skill. And we all know from experience that the matchmaking is super quick for players of all skills so only that fact is a second argument that debunks any form of hard rigged matchmaking based on skill.

Also, if the matchmaking is hard rigged, then how can different players have such varying KD and win rate?

I personally think the matchmaking is rather random. I think its tries to prioritize premade trios in the same lobbies but with many exceptions. I believe this because I think the lobbies feel considerably sweatier whenever I play full 3man, compared to solo.  But other than that, I think your performance just comes down to where you sit skill wise compared to the player base. If you are below average you will have below average matches and if you are above average, you will have more good matches than bad etc

Your dedication to this forum is admirable. Hope you can give Respawn the feedback we all need. 

Respawn and EA only know one sort of feedback ... money in the bank ...
so if you want to have something changed, dont spend money on the game !We all know they like the freeloaders most 😉

" And we all know from experience that the matchmaking is super quick for players of all skills so only that fact is a second argument that debunks any form of hard rigged matchmaking based on skill."

Yea thats why it takes 5 minutes for me to get a ranked game while it says 300 ppl in queue ... and i play in a very frequented region !
I said it before and i say it again, ppl have a different experiences in Apex MM.
You cannot say this is it, while others have a complete different experience

@r1ggedgame
ave you seen Warzone recently ? Those servers make the game actually unplayable. They sold what they could and now is time to kill the game. :D Legal scam of F2P game and thats why you should never buy stuff in F2P games because they can die overnight even tho if servers are full and its legal because you didnt pay for a game. Lets see if EA are this greedy in year or two when Apex skins wont sell that much anymore... 🙂 Activision is trully something, would never buy anything from them. So yeah I think Apex is still good, wont be perfect, honestly MM so bad I dont even play Apex anymore, but when compared to Warzone ? :D You can still atleast loot and die to pre-made in Apex, which is kinda hard in Warzone nowadays. :DDD

@Balladalidila
Ive got 1300 hours in this game and when I saw that post what kind of MM it actually is, everything made sense.

Its meant to make you chase dragons, you would get bored if you won every match and you would also get annoyed when you lost all and you need to apply that for new players too so they get carried +now this points for not even assisting kill, yeah this makes perfect sense if you think about it.

But this MM really doesnt matter anymore because ranked is absolute mess since S13 anyway. :D

@r1ggedgame 

That sounds really strange. I actually had similar experience like that on EU. I was looking for gold matches, the counter said 30, 50, 80, 120 players in queue before I got into a lobby after perhaps 1 minute. I got a bit suspicious and thought exactly like you like "Am I being sorted into a "special" gold lobby?". But this was a couple of splits ago and it also only happened once or twice. Now I get Silver to platinum matches in a couple of seconds.

What rank and region are you playing in when this happens to you?

@Awhoo_Thunder 

Was referring to pubs btw and not ranked. But who knows whats going on under the hood of the matchmaking process. Perhaps its super rigged but I just think the simplest solution is the probably the most plausible, i.e that the matchmaking is quite random and not rigged. I just feel that the tin foil hat is rather common when it comes to the SBMM discussion. Bottom line is that players that are good at this game still manage to have more good causal games than bad. I am not a pro at at all but I manage to have pretty decent casual matches with about 9% winrate (only playing aggressively) and about 2.6 KD with early leaves included so I dont feel "targeted" by an unfair matchmaking at all 

And yeah, ranked is stupid. It seems to just one big lobby with players from bronze to gold and does not match "similarly skilled players" at all. I actually had a higher KD from Gold4 to Plat4 last split than from Bronze4 to Gold4 =)

I land solo and do better in ranked.. I'm about to quit this stupid game - link is to YouTube video of my most current game, decided to try and land with people. BiG MISTAKE!