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crumpsly's avatar
5 years ago

The Apex store is an absolute scam and I don't care about the prices.

This is not a complaint about things being too expensive. I am happy to spend good money on a game I enjoy and I really enjoy Apex.

My problem lies in the incredibly predatory nature of the lootbox/heirloom relationship and the proprietary currency.

1) Apex coin should be purchasable in any amount. Forcing players to buy coins in set amounts is just a dishonest way of increasing the price of everything in the store. Coincidentally nothing in the store is sold in denominations of coins that are available to be purchased. Just let us buy as many coins as a thing costs instead of spitting in our faces trying to squeeze every dime you can out of us.

2) Make heirlooms more accessible. Personally I don't buy packs because it's just gambling. I watched a popular streamer yesterday open 300 packs in a row without getting any heirloom shards. I have 1000ish hours at level 350 with no heirloom shards. Make it so that after you achieve a certain criteria with a character you can either craft or purchase an heirloom outright. Otherwise it just feels like mockery when it's expected to pay upwards of hundreds/thousands of dollars for a digital heirloom. I respect that these things take time and effort to make and should have a price. I don't even mind if that price is exorbitant. But it's simply a slap in the face to the player base to expect them to shell out so much cash just for the CHANCE to get an heirloom. What's the point of making this awesome art if I have to become a gambler in order to enjoy it?

Overall it's just really sad that such a predatory model is the standard in games these days. It would be nice to see someone take some initiative and provide a model that isn't specifically designed to take advantage of gambling addicts and people with enormous disposable incomes.

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  • crumpsly's avatar
    crumpsly
    5 years ago

    I doubt that is enforced at all. I know for a fact I've opened at least 345 from purchased apex coins alone before season 3, + 20 for level 1-20, and another 165 from level 20-350 + however many from battle passes and flash events. That's why I don't buy them anymore and call them a scam lol.

  • @crumpsly What do you mean enforced? It's hardwired into the game, lol. You get legendary items every X number of packs, and the same with heirlooms. If you don't have one your math is obviously off.

    Otherwise, you know what you can do? Contact customer service. You can show them your pack purchases and demand your free heirloom. So if you have the records on your account, go for it!
  • crumpsly's avatar
    crumpsly
    5 years ago

    > If you don't have one your math is obviously off.

    I bought the $100 apex coin pack at the start once each season in season 1, 2 and 3. You get enough coins for 115 packs from each. 115 x 3 is 345. I know I've opened at least 500. I have contacted customer service about it a couple time. Once in like season 4 and they told me there was nothing they could do. Once in season 9 because the few packs I had didn't work. The game would disconnect while opening, pack was gone and nothing added to my inventory. Again was told there was nothing that could be done.

    But honestly that's beside the point, because this was never a post about me wanting an heirloom. It's a post about how the proprietary currency is a dishonest business model that exploits people as opposed to one that allows the people who support the game the most to be rewarded with their loyalty. Even if I had all the heirlooms it wouldn't change the fact that charging 1800 coins for something and not allowing you to buy 1800 coins is scummy. Imagine going to a store and trying to buy something for 5 dollars, but they tell you that you can only buy it with StoreBucks and you can only purchase a minimum of $20 of StoreBucks. Would you shop there?

    I don't care if the * is expensive. Just let me buy it outright, instead of forcing me to play a slot machine.

  • @crumpslyhttps://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Can-t-recieve-heirloom-shards-through-500-after-lock-ACE/m-p/10062900/highlight/true#M98409

    This post may help with your pack calculations.

    As for the other point, I think you'd have to rail against any free-to-play MMO if you want the option to pay exactly the dollar amount of each item. I'm not sure if it has to do with different platforms taking their cut or some payment processor requirements, but I've never seen any MMOs that allow you to purchase custom amounts of virtual currency.

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