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brapope's avatar
6 years ago

The Flaws of the Battle Pass and Overall Economy

I know this has been discussed at length on many forums buy my goal is to create a good thread discussing the fundamental flaws of the recently released Battle Pass. Hopefully someone at EA and/or Respawn will see this and understand the changes that need to be made and the things that should have never been. 

The current Battle Pass is and extension of the greed and horrible economy that was created in this game. This game is truly amazing, that fact that it was given away for free is extraordinary and I want to help reward the developers and creators that have spent so much time creating amazing content. I refuse to pay $18 for a legendary skin for my favorite legend, had you made it $3, I would be buying them left and right trying to create the look I wanted. Now, this is where the battle pass fails. 

Battle Pass- Promise of 100 unique rewards. 20 of which are a Badge Icon!! This is an incredibly poor design. The rest is filled with mediocre skins, trackers(should be universal unlock), worthless quips, and two unique skins(very cool) and about 7 apex packs. 

1. How can you not put in crafting materials to allow us to eventually buy the skin we desire. Instead of Badge Icons, those levels should be replaced with 60 crafting materials, at the end of the Battle Pass, we'd have 1200 materials to get 1 legendary outfit of our choice. 

2. Badge Icon on Battle Pass should be separate just like regular progression level and change and evolve as you level up. Just display two level icons on banner page.

3. To have an entire pass based on XP where you can't get bonuses for challenges, only for switching characters is lazy development. Also, your bonus for 2.5% survival time per friend is faulty to the core because it takes away from what is most fun about this game, Fast-paced action and being able to play with randoms due to the AMAZING ping system. You are asking people to just hide in corners to increase survival time. Terrible Design. 

I think you misunderstand the goal of the battle pass which is to give people a sense of accomplishment and to strive for unique and amazing loot. The only loot people want from your pass is the 7 packs and the Havoc skin. The community has so many better ideas for what you could have done with this pass. What you seem to fail to understand is a basic business model of providing people with the options to customize themselves would give you more money than trying to just do random crap. It's greedy and poor development. 

People want to support your game but you have to meet us in the middle. Provide people with the ability to play how they want instead of forcing them down a certain path. 

-Thank you

6 Replies

  • I don't see why this had to be its own thread nothing really new has been said and a bump of one of the many threads with the same stuff said in it would of been fine. 

    the tldr; too expensive for shop skins, crafting material instead of badges, upset that they didnt put challenges for this bp. 

    As for my opinion yeah it was really crappy the only thing that can make it worth it is getting coins back for the next pass. I dont care about getting crafting material but the character skins should be more then just face paint, lets get mask,helmets, gold plated armor, diamond armor, more detailed face feature, complete re-work of the model not 1 hour tweaks of them. And get animation (such as taunts and dances) unlocks, not trackers 

  • brapope's avatar
    brapope
    6 years ago

    Yeah, I could have placed this under a post already but my goal isn't just to say "the content is crap". I think it's important to distinguish why so much of the community is disappointed and that's because we want more options and this battle pass didn't really offer any of that. There is plenty of room for more creative content, but not my goal to put all that in here. 

  • Anyone here seen the Fortnite Battle Pass?

    Same same but different.

    Sprays and stuff.

    Admittedly AL's Battle Pass is semi garbage. Yep I bought it.

  • The difference is Fortnite doesn't resort to loot boxes. Hell, loot boxes aren't even a thing in that game. It's strictly currency and there are numerous ways to earn it up without buying it. If Respawn wanted to match Epic's battle pass formula, they should have went ahead and added weekly challenges worth a certain amount of Apex Coins or Crafting Metal on completion. Crafting Metal is what most people are really after at the end of the day. It's satisfying to get a legendary cosmetic from a loot box, even for a character you don't one-trick or a gun you hardly ever use. But people really want to get the crafting material to unlock cosmetics for legends and guns that they do use frequently.

    Quite honestly, I would have taken Crafting Metal over the Apex Packs in the battle pass.

  • OwhyeeOutlaw's avatar
    OwhyeeOutlaw
    6 years ago

    The battle pass is ok, nothing great but worth the price.... the economy is definitely broken though,  not so much on character skins but weapon skins is horrible,  no one is going to pay 18 dollars for a alternator skin then spend legend tokens for the exclusive that's the same dang skin but different color....lol... fortnite skins cost 8-20 bucks depending on variant so that's pretty par for the course but weapon skins should be no more then 3-4 dollars.  Also the item shop doesn't update fast enough,  literally i play lifeline as a main and the option to buy one of her legendary skins has only been in the shop once since the game came out, having the chance to buy a skin in the shop shouldn't happen every 2 months... and there's no way I'm buying anymore apex packs just to get 1 of the 4 million intro or kill quips for a legend

  • Kuro466's avatar
    Kuro466
    6 years ago

    Agreed. I dont know if they make more or less money going the loot box route, but it sure feels worse. And having people spend $500 to get a knife? That is just wrong.

    I've probably spent $700 on league of legends over 7 years... But always $3-12 at a time - for something i actually wanted that made me happy. Like buying overpriced coffee from starbucks.

    I spent some money on apex packs, and decided they only enjoyable thing i get from that rng fest is the fun of opening a box.. so i really cant understand why i would spend any more on them. Plus, most of the cosmetics are boring recolors of other boring skins.

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