The game is too slow
I know they already made the circle come in quicker, but it still feels too slow.valorant games can take an hour, yet i feel less bored playing it, since rounds last minutes and you always need to be...
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@reconzero 18 minutes is barely enough to get loot and evo harvestors? I have to disagree with that
With 18 minutes you have time to waste on camping and wandering, as is my expirience.
I don't dont games should go past 14-15 minutes, especially when you're playing for points and your team ends up killing themselves or you get 3rd partied.
@BETELX6
A 15 minute match is a match where you have no option to land at the edge, it's center-only. You would have multi-squad pile ups by the dozen, and the same people calling out for a shorter timer would come right back and call out for some mechanism to prevent third partying. Not to mention that every single squad that made it to the top five would have place holder weapons that were missing most of their attachments. Of course, that wouldn't be a problem thanks to the new bin re-set, yet another mechanism I forgot about that's designed to rush things along and hand a freebie to players who dropped hot, didn't have time to loot because of all the shooting, but can now gear up despite their bad judgment. Terrible mechanic that needs to be removed from the game.
I'm not saying anyone is wrong if they prefer a shorter game, but I have to say that I like having the option to control the pace of play instead of just having squad after squad thrown at me with no time to breath and no time to plan the next move. Decisions made in the heat of battle are often wrong, if you're the kind of player who can even do both at once. Many are not.
A 15 minute match is a match where you have no option to land at the edge, it's center-only. You would have multi-squad pile ups by the dozen, and the same people calling out for a shorter timer would come right back and call out for some mechanism to prevent third partying. Not to mention that every single squad that made it to the top five would have place holder weapons that were missing most of their attachments. Of course, that wouldn't be a problem thanks to the new bin re-set, yet another mechanism I forgot about that's designed to rush things along and hand a freebie to players who dropped hot, didn't have time to loot because of all the shooting, but can now gear up despite their bad judgment. Terrible mechanic that needs to be removed from the game.
I'm not saying anyone is wrong if they prefer a shorter game, but I have to say that I like having the option to control the pace of play instead of just having squad after squad thrown at me with no time to breath and no time to plan the next move. Decisions made in the heat of battle are often wrong, if you're the kind of player who can even do both at once. Many are not.
@reconzero You are greatly overexaggerating how this would affect where you land. People have already tested that walking across kings canyon takes 7 minutes. Also dropping hot is does not magically make you unable to loot, you can just leave the area after you're done being there or survive the chaos. I feel like you're playing this game too slow. Even before bin resets, i didn't feel like end game loot was bad and i dont mind maxing out the last players, i think its cool.
- @BETELX6
Walking across King's takes seven minutes. Assuming you don't meet any enemies in a bad or bottlenecked place, have to go through multiple POIs, or that your squadmates won't sabotage you by insisting on a fight they can't win in the spot farthest from the next circle. You now also have the possibility of enemies on every side, not just in front of you. Did I say "possibility?" I meant "probability." Oh, and add however much time you might need for looting. Unless your loot just lays itself out on your path. I can loot that way, but my squadmates never can. They either hit one building and then rush to a fight, or they hit every single bin they know of even if it means getting singed by the ring and coming into the circle in the middle of a four squad pile up.
I get it. You like a fast paced game. And I think an argument could be made in their favor if you were only talking about higher skilled lobbies. But none of these propositions are an over-exaggeration. You may or may not recall the faster ring timers of season... 14? But they were fast. I can't recall if we got to your target time of 15 minutes, but if not it was very close. People were quitting matches left and right based on nothing more than their drop plus the first ring. It was never that you couldn't make it. It was that you had to go through two engagements on the way with no time to loot as you sprinted across the map. It was pointless. I don't mind getting beat by a guy who has a positional advantage or better aim, but getting beat because I can't engage because I have two place-holder weapons and NO ammunition? That was why people quit. That was why the dev backed off the whole idea.@reconzero
I'd say the best game would have 10 rings.
That would give you plenty of time to move, and you wouldn't be guaranteed death in almost every first ring.
You could look for easter eggs, make sure you got all the loot and attachments from the area that you need, mark locations of extra stuff you might need later, fortify if you can, etc.
@BETELX6Games are always about art, not about killing your playerbase as often as possible. Art isn't just design, but story. Most players want the lore. Games like this do lore via easter eggs. Look around the map for lore bits. Little nessies and whatnot.
Have you ever picked up a nessie from Antenna on Storm Point? Have you ever won with a nessie in your inventory? You should try it sometime.
I hate when I win due to the ring. I've had a few matches where the ring came in so fast that the entire lobby died except for my squad, who was in the ring from landing. We set up and never saw anyone. They all got trapped on the other side of the mountain and we won by default, because the ring eliminated everyone.
And that was BEFORE the timer got reduced.
Although my latest matches have wound up being the ring's on the opposite side of the map. Sorry guys, no time to loot. We're gonna get killed by the ring. As we sprint as fast as we can, a couple pick up a gun or a grenade, but we only get halfway to the ring and we're already engulfed, burned, and out of the 3 stacks of syringes and 2 stacks of medpacks and pheonix kit we picked up along the way.
Seriously. If you land on the edge, and the ring spawns on the other side of the map, you're guaranteed to die. Very poor ring mechanics.
It moves faster than skydive speeds. It moves faster than a trident.
There need to be more rings so the ring isn't instantly killing everyone in the first ring. It should never move faster than people can move on a map. In most cases, that means sprinting. In some cases, that means skydive or trident speed. The ring should always be slower than skydive, never outpacing it. Game's no fun when you're always being eaten by the ring.
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