I know they already made the circle come in quicker, but it still feels too slow.valorant games can take an hour, yet i feel less bored playing it, since rounds last minutes and you always need to be doing something to win, but as a gold player in apex, this is how games go for me:1. My squad dies on drop.2. My teammates are lobotomites, so they impatiently rush into battle with zero communication and get themselves killed one by one and now i have to hope there's a support player on my team so i can hopefully craft their banner and respawn them, and hope that they don't rush and die again. (My team rushed and died after i respawned them)3. They rush and die and i can't respawn them, so now I'm stuck sneaking around the map to get placement rp or try to third-party the last team, which is supremely boring camping, or running for my life from other teams trying to kill me.4. I have a good team and have a good match, even if we lose. As apex players, i think we can all say that scenarios 1, 2, and 3 are usually what happens in low ranks.If we want apex to be nearly as fulfilling as longer FPS games like val or cs, i think games need to be faster because of how many bad games we usually get, due to the nature of battle royale. Ring durations need to be shorter, ring close times need to be even shorter and I think we should make the storm hurt even more too. This all should make teams rotate faster, be warier of time, and cause more fights to break out from people trying to get to places and will punish people harder for being caught in the first storm level.

@BETELX6Walking across King's takes seven minutes. Assuming you don't meet any enemies in a bad or bottlenecked place, have to go through multiple POIs, or that your squadmates won't sabotage you by insisting on a fight they can't win in the spot farthest from the next circle. You now also have the possibility of enemies on every side, not just in front of you. Did I say "possibility?" I meant "probability." Oh, and add however much time you might need for looting. Unless your loot just lays itself out on your path. I can loot that way, but my squadmates never can. They either hit one building and then rush to a fight, or they hit every single bin they know of even if it means getting singed by the ring and coming into the circle in the middle of a four squad pile up.I get it. You like a fast paced game. And I think an argument could be made in their favor if you were only talking about higher skilled lobbies. But none of these propositions are an over-exaggeration. You may or may not recall the faster ring timers of season... 14? But they were fast. I can't recall if we got to your target time of 15 minutes, but if not it was very close. People were quitting matches left and right based on nothing more than their drop plus the first ring. It was never that you couldn't make it. It was that you had to go through two engagements on the way with no time to loot as you sprinted across the map. It was pointless. I don't mind getting beat by a guy who has a positional advantage or better aim, but getting beat because I can't engage because I have two place-holder weapons and NO ammunition? That was why people quit. That was why the dev backed off the whole idea.

@BETELX6 If you feel 14+ minutes is too long, then this isn't the game you want to play.Generally speaking, a video game can only cater to a few emotive aesthetics, perhaps 4 or 5 at best. BR is a natural for exploration, which by its very nature is best left to lengthier periods of play.

Nopethe game mechanics are fine as isdrop with the largest group of squads and you’ll have all the fun and excitement you could ever want.on BM, I like to drop in the center where I can expect immediate engagement. This is often better than looting and running only to engage when I am not expecting to. Either we live to feast on our prizes or we go back into the queue for another match. But it certainly isn’t slow.

Well if you want to play the game like it were chess, then why are you complaining?

@BETELX6Sorry, have to agree with the others. There are already plenty of faster games out there, including those you named, and this one has already been sped up over the years. The average br match used to hit 20 or even 21 minutes on the timer. Now they barely get to 18.And the 18 minutes is already barely enough to loot, hit your evo harvesters (if you're that kind of player), and make your position, especially if you're an edge dropper. In fact I would argue that every major change of the last few seasons (evo only shields, shorter timer, higher damage late rings, ever thinning loot, even the design of the new map) are all part of a larger move to make you feel subjectively as if you are always on the run, always in danger, and don't have the time you might like to prepare yourself for the endgame. I would say that they are trying everything they can think of to accommodate players who want a faster game.

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Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@BETELX6 I've slaughtered Catalysts after pushing through their wall. It's not a punish. It's blinding, as I only have my cursor, but it's doable.

The last 4 games I played there were no more than 5 ring consoles on Storm point. One central, the only one available most of the time. One NW. One SW. One NE. One SE. Like an X. And of course you have the last 5 teams sitting on it and the other 2-3 locales in the rings. Can't use the beacon because other teams control the area by the time you get there. The hot droppers. I never hotdrop. Hotdrop guarantees my squad among the dead before the first ring moves. Just like the other 2/3ds of the squads.
Seriously. There's only 15 people left by the time the first ring closes, all because everyone lands in the same 3 spots.
Hence I edge drop most of the time.
Hence I have to run from the ring if RNG failed me. One time I landed on crashed ship, and sat on crashed ship, I was NewCastle. We held them off and I got krabered in the face and revived, and the final squad couldn't get up to us. They got crispied by final ring, we won. That one was actually funny.
Another was broken moon a long long time ago. We landed at backup atmo. Final ring closed on that town right beside it. The other 4 squads got stuck in the C on the other side of the mountain. We thought we'd have someone to shoot. Nope, the last 4 squads got crispied. Went from 5 squads left to champions roughly 20-30 seconds after that ring started closing. We were a full premade I think. I was Rampart that time. Had a full setup, couldn't even use it. The one time I actually had plenty of time to setup. That was around Season 14/15. A started in the last two weeks of season 14, Vantage's launch season.
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Zulkiers Ok, I've had more setups since then, but it takes at least 30 seconds to get a good setup. To actually FEEL setup you have to be ready on your setup for a good minute. These current rings don't allow me that. Everything feels like it's duct-taped together. It's not a good feeling.
To feel setup, you must align angles, read the angles and measure them. Roughly. You must meticulously place your objects, which can take up to 5 seconds if you're fast, or 15 seconds if you can't get just the right spot.
Then you must read the setup's angles, determine its vulnerabilities, and prepare for such.
As Rampart, once you setup a fortification setup, you must read its angles and sighlines. How much area can you see from behind your amp? Should you move it forward? Back? Adjust its angle?
Ultimates (Pylon and Turret) are harder.
Turret insanely harder than it used to be since now you can only have one instead of 3.
Speaking of, my broken moon setup had 5 barricades and 3 turrets, and we were on a rooftop. I had a Sentinel and was so hoping to use it. I think I had a sniper quest at the time too so I was very disappointed I couldn't shoot anyone.
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Above you can see that match.
Actually, I don't recall backup atmo at that time. Perhaps the old map is right. It really was a long time ago. I was missing half the legends.
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
But, the setup felt great!
The only downside is no one got in our crosshairs, all getting trapped on the other side of the mountain.
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Back to #33. The current rings don't allow me to check all my angles. I can't get a proper setup. Except when I'm magically in the ring.
The last time I was NewCastle at crashed ship.
Normally it tends to end up as the enemy gets crispy, because we controlled a spot and the others all got trapped somewhere, whether by their bad judgement (my match as rampart) or we held them back and prevented them from gaining ground (NewCastle match).
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Match as NewCastle
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
My setup on that match as Rampart
Black and grey lines are my 5 barricades. 3 red dots are my turrets. This setup had full coverage from that rooftop. One of my first times playing Rampart. Won by the others getting crispied by the ring at the stasis array side of the mountain.
Zulkiers
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
I'm sad I can no longer have my 3 turrets anymore.