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accureye's avatar
accureye
3 years ago

Unranked/Ranked Mode Respawn Time Out plus punishment if you leave early

So i think that Ranked mode and casual should have a Respawn timer before it times out as i think that far to often we see players who will see the deathbox and a player go down which that timer before it decays if you will is fine but i think we need to have a timer on how long you have before it times out completely once you grab it. In other words once you grab the respawn you have about 2 mins before the banner runs out this way you as a player have to prioritize respawning. If a player in ranked mode or unranked  leaves before the timer times out then they get a early leaver punishment in unranked this would be a 10 min suspension.

In ranked this will be a 10 min suspension first offensive second offensive a 1 hour suspension third offensive 1 day ban from ranked fourth and final offensive is ban for the season from ranked. this will also i think stop ranked players from leaving early without punishment. i also believe that this will weed out the casuals from the true ranked players. now once the respawn timer if it runs out and you have a timed out your free to leave as you see fit no punishment in ranked this will mean that you still could possibly lose out on free RP that your teammate or mates who are still alive could earn but your free as you see fit to make that decision. Personally i think that this could also improve the life of players who are tired of seeing someone leave early and not hope that their team could revive them. On the other hand this will help with making it so that players don't just grab the banner and hold it forever. Obviously it's a double sided coin but i feel that this should help weed out early leavers while also weeding out those who are just waiting forever for a respawn yet they never get it 

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  • PeterN_UK's avatar
    PeterN_UK
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    A better formulai would be if they were to leave. If they log back in it forces them back in same lobby game, much in the way if you have internet disconnect it pushes into re-join.

    i.e.

    If player disconnects/ due to internet cut off or chooses to leave before respawn timer runs out

    Then put them back into same game if they choose to try to match make

    If respawn timer has already run out by the time they joined, proceed to put them to match make another lobby as they can't be respawned anyway

    This means no abandon penalty required at all.

    Troll factor you get some people that will hold onto your banner for rest of the game and not bother to respawn team mates back in. So there should be a small timer even though banner retrieved.

    In casual mode. This will definitely solve that person who likes to hot drop, 1v3, stat pad kill/damage then quit problem. Their penalty is having to re-join until respawn times out because EA would want to keep people playing rather than prevent them altogether for a time period, just means they keep playing in same game.

  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @PeterN_UK The typical "Fragment" Dropper will just wait after he quits until the reconnect timeout is over, if such a "penalty" is in place. That wont change the situation at all, just adds a bit more waiting time for the people that leave a game.
    Imho you have to tackle the root cause, makes no sense to mix up HotDroppers with the "Slowgamers", but the Matchmaking does it anyway. Even if the Drop is made by a Slowgamer, the HotDrop Guy will instantly leave the team for the action heading towards the HotDrop POI.
    And most HotDrop People will also instantly leave if they die, thats just how they play the game, you cant change that.
    Also there is a timer (not really visible but there is) if you pick up the Banner and dont respawn in a certain timeframe (ranked), the other player can leave without the Penalty after that "invisible" counter runs out (the penalty message will be gone by then, thats how you know you can safely disconnect).
  • PeterN_UK's avatar
    PeterN_UK
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @matzesingt

    That would be perfect. Rather than let them begrudgingly stick around if they rather move on.

    I have come to understand why people just down and quit. Just faster and more fun to restart in another lobby regardless of courtesy.

    Apex pubs is pretty much one life mode.

  • matzesingt's avatar
    matzesingt
    3 years ago
    @PeterN_UK People seem to not realize that it will just get more toxic if you force people to stay.

    If they die and wanna go next just let them, don’t expect serious gameplay from unranked games
  • accureye's avatar
    accureye
    3 years ago

    That really isn't the point if someone wants to leave the game feel free to but the point of this is to punish those who rage quit cause they play tilted and also force them into a timeout/break while also punishing those who just quit because they just want to leave their team down one member the amount of times ive ran into a random who leaves the game making it a Duo vs trio or Solo vs Trio is way more frustrating than it seems in unrated and in some cases Ranked this makes it to where you are punished now do you accept that punishment is up to you but no one in unrated or ranked should have to deal with the frustration of having a leaver only to have to report them or block them later on 

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @accureye

    The banner/respawn mechanic in this game is a tool the developer created so that content creators can just keep killing the same kid over and over again. It shouldn't even exist. It encourages griefers to grief, and it makes normal players buy into the get-out-of-jail-free mentality. Which makes them reckless. If somebody puts you down then quit the match even if Respawn doesn't have the decency to let you go.
  • accureye's avatar
    accureye
    3 years ago

    Again that is not the point at the end of the day way to many players are playing tilted or just leaving a person down one on duos or 2 verses 3 on trios in a worst case scenario 1 vs 3 the point of the punishment is to teach people not to leave a game they think is unwinnable while also forcing a tilted player to take a break. The amount of times ive played a game tilted affects not only my mood in the game but everyone around me it creates toxic behavior that could be avoided through a break of 10 mins but leaving early when you possibly could get another chance also needs to be addressed so that we don't run into Randoms that just drop out of a team 

  • 1unown1's avatar
    1unown1
    3 years ago
    @accureye Why do people get so butt hurt about people leaving? In ranked you don't lose any rp if they leave early, I personally love when people leave early in ranked. In pubs who cares if you have teammates

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